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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Our new National Anthem is "American Woman"

Because it's literally about all of us now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago

Hello, ladies!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 hours ago

Trumps 357825D feminism chess move.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 15 hours ago

What I don’t see many talk about, this wording also implies that life starts at conception so every abortion is now illegal, no blue state save havens

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hmmm. I'm definitely trying to figure it out.

“Male” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell. “Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

At conception I was a single cell that contained both the combined small and large cells(sperm and egg). I was a fertilized cell that didn't produce either small or large reproductive cells yet. I think that makes me neither then?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 16 hours ago

This executive order just abolished all gender politics. I didn't expect Trump to be so progressive on day one.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Kamala wanted to be the 1st woman President so Trump had to make sure he was the first instead.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Somebody should call her Madam President to her face.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this just mean no one's a male or a female. I get that we develop female characteristics first in utero, then go to male if the y chromosome is there in most situations, but thats later on. At conception, the only cells you're producing are undifferentiated stem cells, not reproductive cells.

So trump just abolished gender?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, Trump made us all trans. He has defeated the Cis Empire.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

*They have

On another note, now no-one can use any of the bathrooms the US congress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

actually they just recently opened a gender neutral bathroom in the white house!

[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm so glad he is fixing important things like this, instead of wasting his time on housing and food and energy! /s

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I went to the store today and I’m afraid that Eggs still cost the same as a week ago.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fuel hasn't gone down either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

oh come on, give trump a couple days to find the lever labeled "Fuel Price"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In fact, it just went up where I live

[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago

But all of these things are now the greatest ever because Trump is president. We’re actually lucky they’re not more expensive/s

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Well i mean, food is less important that defining gender!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

those reduced taxes on the rich and no regulations should trickle down eventually (into the local water supply)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Oh he has an energy plan. Unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What are you taking about? He's full on on energy. He expand drilling in the US so oil companies can produce more oil, even though we already have a ton of oil in the US. Increase supply of something that is already abundant so that they can sell it at a lower cost at the pump. Genius!

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/20/nx-s1-5268653/energy-emergency-trump-oil-evs

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I mean they’re obviously arguing chromosomal sex is the end all be all

while it is true the gonads and external genitalia of embryos appear the same regardless of chromosomal sex it is also true that generally that embryo will develop sex characteristics in weeks 7-12 based on chromosomal assignments that occurred at conception.

The xy embryos have the presence of the sry gene on the Y chromosome which triggers development of gonads into testes, testosterone, and amh. Wolffian ducts become early stages of a penis, amh causes Müllerian ducts to regress

Xx embryos lack sry gene obviously, which allow the gonads to become ovaries. The wolffian ducts regress without amh and the Müllerian ducts become early stages of a vagina

Then week 12+ is when uterus/prostate start

That said biological sex is obviously much more complex than this. Intersex people exist. And there’s a great deal of variation in that.

Gonadal dysgenesis can occur when the gonads do not fully develop into testes or ovaries, incomplete or ambiguous genitalia.

True hermaphroditism can occur where both ovary and testicular tissue is present, again usually leading to ambiguous genitalia (no futas)

Androgen insensitivity can lead to ambiguous genitalia or in some cases an xy person with female external genitalia

Alternatively excess androgen can cause masculinized genitalia in xx people

Kleinfelters (xxy) can give underdeveloped testes, infertility, and low testosterone

Turners (x) underdeveloped ovaries, infertility

And this just kind of hand waves all those people away. Do you feel like your identity is linked to the fact that you’re in this minority and maybe doesn’t match what people perceive you to be? Are you an xy person with female genitalia because of androgen insensitivity who feels that your genitalia don’t match who you are. Well technically you’re a guy now I guess by these rules although we all know they mean “if you look like a chick you’re a chick”

And this all is besides the scientific evidence on transgender neurology, which is large and growing.

The bed nucleus of stria terminals is associated with gender identity and is typically smaller in cis women and larger in cis men. In amab trans women it tends to be similar to that of cis women

Cortical thickness of trans individuals tends to align more closely with their preferred gender

Trans people tend to show brain connectivity patterns in regions associated with self perception and body image aligned with their identity

Etc. this is already a novel. And this doesn’t even touch upon the *many many * more things at play here like genetics and epigenetics, prenatal neural developments and hormonal factors, social structures around gender (though tbf they did somewhat touch on this if only to outright deny its validity without offering any real rationale other than “we think it’s dumb”)

But these people obviously don’t give a shit about any of this. They’ll negate it, attack the source, outright deny the claims with no counter evidence, etc. or they’ll just do what they’re currently doing, remain completely ignorant on the topic and seize authority and power to implement their will regardless of the scientific consensus.

Dark times but fuck them. You don’t need the governments approval to express yourself. although I do recognize this will probably be an absolute nightmare for anyone who has not gotten a name change, modified birth certificate, drivers license, etc. if you haven’t done that maybe do it asap, especially for federal documents like passports (especially if you plan to bail on this shithole)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Thank you so much for writing all this! It is extremely educating and also very concise.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you!

I hate these "gotcha" responses like the "everyone is female" thing.

Of the many MANY ways that "biological sex" can be determined (phenotype, hormone, etc) the ONLY one that exists at the time of conception when we're not even talking embryo stage yet because there's only one fertilized cell (or two if you want until mitosis begins) is chromosomal sex.

"But we're all female at first" isn't going to hold up in court, and it's NOT going to save trans lives. We need to do better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Except XX male syndrome is a thing, where externally individuals present male but have female karyotype. So are those people female despite having functional male genitalia? And that's only one of a myriad of situations where an individual's chromosomes don't reflect what their phenotype is like nor their biological reproductive function. Chromosomes are NOT an infallible indicator of biological sex.

Also the text of the law says nothing about chromosomes. It indicates from conception the cells that produce the large gamete are considered female, and cells that produce the small gamete are considered male. No one is producing gametes at conception. It also completely disregards anyone who produces no gametes at all. At best this law has declared everyone to have no biological sex whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I want to be clear that I disagree with the EO; it's not well written, has holes, and (most importantly) is ethically abhorrent. Your first paragraph gives many examples, good job.

But accurate understanding is crucial to effective resistance.

"Sex at time of conception" can ONLY be interpreted as chromosomal sex, as there is no other means of determining sex at that time of development.

The EO doesn't concern itself with which gametes a person ACTUALLY produces, only which ones they WOULD produce based on the zygote's (chromosomal) sex.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago

So every american is now a pussy at conception? I bet some MAGAs didn't see that coming.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

We're all clowning on that doofus but who measures at conception? How are they actually going to enforce this?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago

They're fascists, they're only going to enforce it when they want to hurt someone they don't like or when it benefits them. They don't give a shit about precedence or conviction or morality or anything other than what serves them in the moment. They have captured the courts, and both houses, and the presidency. Consistency or hypocrisy don't matter to them. They'll use whatever justification works in the moment and turn on a dime if it serves them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

They don’t need to measure. We’re all female at conception. We’re dunking but it’s ACTUALLY that stupid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I know it's that stupid. But it doesn't matter that it's stupid. They're going to use it when they see fit and they have captured the whole legal system to use at their discretion to enact it no matter how stupid it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I also know this but I am powerless to do anything but talk shit on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

We should all make sure to call her Madam President

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Just wait until Donnie realises technically all cis-males are trans, as all fetuses start off as female and only begin transitioning to being male six weeks into their existence

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if someone doesn't produce any cells?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

They are fired from the battery factory.

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