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[–] [email protected] 231 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Exposing children to social media.

Putting your kids on social media publicly.

The kids that grew up with it will probably see the harm caused and not want to pass that on.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yea this. It’s the cigarettes of our generation. “I don’t know, everyone was doing it back then”, we’ll all say.

And our blind acceptance of it all, to the point of allowing it to replace journalism and politics, will be seen as dumb in the same way we now breath in some cigarette smoke and see it as obviously unhealthy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the dumbing effect it’s having on us as a society might even stop us from ever having realizations like his ever again though

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. Younger millenials that grew up with social media are having kids and I see them posting about it.

For better or worse, I think social media is here to stay in some form or another. Maybe theyll fight harder to put some limits on it but I'm skeptical

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hopefully for profit health care, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Definitely don't hold your breath.

If you pass out and hit your head, do you know how much that would cost to go to urgent care?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Meat eating is a possibility. I don’t see it being universal, but veganism is on the ride and it makes sense to a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's just not sustainable. Lab-grown meat is here, it just needs to get to scale, get a bit cheaper and boom. Farming and killing animals for food will be obsolete.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Farming as a whole will still not disappear at all, animal agriculture will change, but will also not disappear.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the first thing that came to my mind, too. I'm a omnivore myself and admittedly love my meat, but it's very bad for the environment and I can't deny the ethical concerns are there. At the very least, I can see low key vegetarianism being the norm in 20 years, where the norm would simply be to not have meat products, and meat might instead be a more niche diet or simply not the norm.

If lab grown meat manages to become scalable enough, I can also see that nearly completely replacing "real" meat. Once it's at least as affordable, I think "real" meat's days would be numbered. It'd become a thing only for purists/elitists/exotic diners. I would even expect that lab grown meat would eventually become cheaper than "real" meat simply because it would be far faster to grow and take fewer resources than to grow an entire animal to adulthood.

As an aside, would labe grown meat be considered vegan? I think it would be since no animal is harmed in the making of it. I imagine many existing vegans wouldn't want to eat something that tastes like meat, but it would be the thing that converts practically everyone else. I sure don't see why I'd ever want to eat "real" meat again if I could get a comparable lab grown meat that doesn't harm animals and is better for the environment. That's just a win win.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just spitballing, but potentially:

  • undeclared AI usage for photos, video, code, etc
  • driving old beater cars or even nicer old ones like corvettes
  • Being outside during the peak of the day's heat
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

undeclared AI usage for photos, video, code, etc

I think this is the one. It's this generation's Napster, but the difference is it's not Britney Spears and Metallica getting robbed. It's every artist who ever posted their work to the Internet, and that's a huge, huge deal.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Protesting.

The future looks scary to me.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully that goes the other way and it is more normal to do so

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

We could learn a lot from the French.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stealing water from neighboring clans. Driving cars without spikes.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not being 100% available 24/7/365 will become even less acceptable than its already become.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Daily commuting can also go.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

SUVs.

There really is no need to haul 3 tons of steel around with you, and as more and more extreme weather events happen you'll have more and more people looking around for others to blame, and oversized cars which are clearly unnecessary for work (especially the ones with Internal Combustion Engines) make for big very visible targets, with the added factor that in some places they're seen as conspicuous displays of wealth (and flaunting wealth will be another thing that's likely to become frowned upon within the next 2 decades).

Not saying that SUVs are all to blame or even that the rich ride them (in my experience they're more the cars of a certain middle class), but they're in that spot of being abundant enough and yet only a minority of cars, easy to spot, often imposing in a showoffish way and logically more poluting that smaller cars, all this right when the impact of Global Warming is really and properly starting to be felt, something which at the current rate will get much worse in 2 decades.

Also, unlike big oil companies SUV owners don't have PR departments with hundreds of millions of dollars of budget to sway the press and swindle the useful idiots.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Publicly releasing a crime suspect’s name before conviction. Can’t believe that’s legal, may as well call them guilty until proven innocent.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Daily use of fossil cars and motorcycles.

Bringing your religion into other people's business.

Depending on how lab meats come along, meat from slaughtering animals.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I think basically every single top level comment has zero understanding of what a short time 20 years actually is.

I also expect almost everything that is acceptable today will also still be in 20 years, including nearly every example suggested in this discussion.

The world simply does not change that fast as a general rule.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Completely disagree, but if you haven't been around for at least a couple of sets of twenty years I can see why you would think this.

Someone else gave a great set of things that were different, but really, twenty years ago was almost completely different in nearly every dimension of life I can remember.

In 2003 not only was gay marriage not legal, gay sex and relationships were illegal where I live, and was punishable by prison time.

In 2003 most of the country wasn't online, pagers were more common than cell phones, and 3DFX VooDoo graphics cards were still a thing.

In 2003 I used to smoke inside my community college's cafeteria, where people ate because it was the designated smoking area.

In 2003 minimum wage was $5.15 nationwide, and gas was just a little over a dollar.

In 2003 people didn't use laptops in school and electronics were confiscated on site, sometimes teachers would 'lose' them and you never got it back, and somehow that was an expected outcome - I lost a laser pointer that way.

In 2003 casual homophobia was mainstream, all your friends, and probably you would be making gay jokes, and transphobia was not a concept. I thought transgender people were the same thing as intersex, I didn't know gender transition was possible.

American society was post 9/11 and highly patriotic, even liberal people were unusually patriotic, and politics were probably the most 'neutral' that I've ever seen, it was nothing like they are now, but in general things trended towards cultural conservatism.

I remember being an outcast because I didn't believe in God, and people would casually tell me I was going to go to Hell.

Nah, 20 years is an entirely different cultural paradigm.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

23 years ago offices buildings were not locked. No doors were locked. Zero. You didn't need a badge to be in the building. Now in most places you swipe through every single door and you need a badge on a lanyard.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think basically every single top level comment has zero understanding of what a short time 20 years actually is.

I also expect almost everything that is acceptable today will also still be in 20 years, including nearly every example suggested in this discussion.

The world simply does not change that fast as a general rule.

In 2003, you could still smoke indoors in many states/countries who have since made it illegal.

In 2003, cannabis and homosexuality was illegal in many more countries than it is now.

In 2003, there were many more TV shows/movies with ingrained sexism than there are now.

In 2003, having hundreds of "online friends" meant you were a social recluse who only spent time on IRC/MSN messenger.

In 2003, if you met a significant other online, you came up with an elaborate story to hide it.

In 2003, most people had a paper map of the streets folded up in their glove compartment.

In 2003, people still remembered phone numbers, phones all had removable batteries, every phone company had a different OS/charging cable, and no phone had a screen >6 inches big.

(cheating a little here, but I would be remiss not to mention this) In 2000, it wasn't illegal to bring a full water bottle into a plane.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember 20 years ago. I remember 40 years ago. It changes pretty fucking fast and it gets faster every year.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have much to say except this take is flat out incorrect

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eating factory farmed meat. With the way politics is headed there will be some politician at some point in the future trying desperately to defend his high beef consumption in what will become known as Burgergate.

Also, islamophobia in the context of defending religious nutjobs. For instance, it is islamophobic to complain about a muslim (Sikh, in reality) man at an airport because he "looks like a terrorist". It is not islamophobic to suggest that female students should be allowed in public schools just like male students. Both of these things have actually happened, very recently, and the latter was defended because people were scared shitless of being called islamophobic. We have to have some minimum human rights standards that religion cannot interfere with, and blatant sex-based discrimination is one of them. I do not give a flying fuck what your religion teaches you.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Working in the fossil fuel industry.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How much sedentary time we spend in front of screens. We already know it is ruining our eyes and our sleep cycles.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

excessive alcohol consumption. I'm not saying I think there will be prohibition, but maybe it won't be so normal to get almost blackout drunk, or everyone drinking at parties to be the norm.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really hope making fun of gender pronouns isn’t acceptable in 20 years. My name is Ted Cruz and my pronounce are U.S.A.

Not just super lame boomer jokes but shitting on people who feel invisible and pronouns help them feel recognized as a full person.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having an excessive amount of kids.

Dystopic I know, but hear me out. I think this is already on the cusp of falling out of social norms as there are shows that let the American public gawk on the dynamics of very large families. Of course an "excessive" amount is vague and subjective but there is growing evidence on poorer outcomes for children who may have less nurturing and less family resources due to competition from having too many siblings. I myself come from a large family - so this is casual speculation from having witnessed the VERY different family dynamics from friends who came from single or two-child households.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smoking around other people

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would argue that its not acceptable now.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not masking during an ongoing pandemic

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Wasting water

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Causing air pollution and having major population centres with terrible air quality.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

In the US, youth tackle football. In some places it's already becoming less socially acceptable and I think that trend will continue.

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