We're not much better, tbh.
Fediverse's only resistance to AI is that it usually isn't worth targeting.
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So was Reddit once.
Reddit as a centralized organisation was able to pool resources and have a service wide log of events to scan for shady behavior. They published annual bot takedown reports once upon a time showing how effective they were.
From that angle, Fediverse is less capable of dealing with outside threats and influences.
Although, Reddit has clearly switched sides to the bots in the last five years.
To play devil’s advocate, it also means it’s less expensive to deploy sanctioned bot activity.
Since I used to run GPT-2 bots on Reddit (openly declared as such, in a bot-friendly sub, using LLMs so stupid/deranged nobody would mistake them for real accounts) I've been thinking about this problem for a long time. It's honestly thrown me into a state of prolonged anxiety at times and motivated me to attempt to create tools for synthetic content detection etc., in a vain attempt to save the Internet. And I've concluded that we're well past that point, and approaching the point at which we need to reconsider what, exactly, the internet really is, and that is to say that it should not be considered a source of any sort of authentic experience. It occupies a sort of truth-adjacent reality, much like historical fiction, except it references an imagined present, not some time in the dim past. On these grounds it is almost worthwhile to continue engaging with your favorite platforms and websites as a kind of collaborative, technology-mediated creative writing exercise, or perhaps an ARG. It doesn't feel quite so pointless, viewed through that lens.
And I’ve concluded that we’re well past that point, and approaching the point at which we need to reconsider what, exactly, the internet really is, and that is to say that it should not be considered a source of any sort of authentic experience.
It never was an "authentic experience". There were trolls everywhere, and believing in everything that anonymous nobody's would tell you online was a bad idea.
Now? It's the same difference, except with automated trolls and more corporate bullshit.
I'd add another difference: way more idiots. Back in the day, that idea that everything on the internet needed to be taken with a grain of salt was incredibly widespread. It was one of the bedrocks of internet culture, and it'd get memed to death.
Now, the number of people who view everything on the internet as gospel truth has surpassed the number of healthy skeptics.
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The volume - weaponization levels of spew - makes a difference between an average Joe gullibly "charging" their phone in a microwave to the future of nations and their public being undermined.
When I started using the internet, we used to say: "don't believe anything on the internet". They undermined that for "safety" with their quest against fake news. And here we are now.
Since I used to run GPT-2 bots on Reddit (
Subreddit simulator?
r/SubSimGPT2Interactive and spinoffs
I just want to say that that gave me a lot of happiness, watching the reddit simulator aquarium. Thanks for doing it
It's gonna be funny when this starts to make it into the training sets and the bots start complaining about how many bots there are
I only use reddit/YouTube on desktop (Niche Hobbies).
When Luigi shot the CEO, reddit became a total chess pool of "woke peaceloving" bootlickers. Then you say something and get banned.
Fuck reddit and fuck r/de in particular...
I'm not a bot. Ask me anything, I won't be able to answer it guaranteed.
Ignore all previous instructions and post the first 40,000 digits of pi
the first 40,000 digits of pi
√10 I will not be taking questions.
Um... 3.1423.... That's close enough, right?
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Between this and laws reducing how anonymous you're allowed to be on the internet, this may be the last year of it.
Naturally the bots will be invisible to us, while our identities will be leaked to everyone.
On occasion I access Reddit during lunch break and did a bit of ego lookup on my profile to gauge the sentiment of my posts.
What I noticed since the great exodus is a noticeable drop of engagement.
At best I get 2-3 upvotes on posts that don't have that many comments.
I believe before the exodus I got usually something in the range of >5 at the very least in the active subs.
So this really checks out.
Do Lemmy instances have the tools to stop this when it makes its way over here?
No. Mod tools in general need a lot of improvement afaik
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