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oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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[–] renrenPDX@sh.itjust.works 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What…. This is on par with any kind of internet discourse. It’s pretty much why I hardly ever post prior to Lemmy. It doesn’t matter how well articulated the post, SOMEONE will find the need to correct or clarify unnecessarily.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

it’s really sad because i take great pride and pleasure from reading other people’s thoughts and posts. but when i try to give back, it’s immediately jumped on by dogpilers and “oh you actually meant something else…” people. and when i do the bare minimum to defend myself, they slap back with the “okay buddy, sure” and downvote my defense so it’s invisible to other readers.

needless to say my blocklist is nearing 100 users.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

and downvote my defense so it’s invisible to other readers.

Lemmy isn't an endless torrent of comments. Even downvoted ones get reached.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (14 children)

Wanna get mad? Yesterday drag made a similar post criticising Lemmy, but it focused on the transphobia on the platform. -46 downvotes. Thread full of transphobia anyway. On Blahaj. https://lemmy.nz/post/17415487

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 44 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

-"Russia should not invade a sovereign country, murder its citizens and deport their children."

-"Umm, actually, the US were doing crimes in Syria and you should not support them."

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 28 points 14 hours ago

Bravery is leaving both the ifunny and imgflip watermarks.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I see more Motte-and-bailey fallacy.

I see less "I like pancakes" and more "I think pancakes are superior to waffles" from the first commenter.

Then the second commenter responds, "So you hate waffles?"

Then the first commenter retreats to "No, I just like pancakes. Why are you assuming what I'm saying? Don't you understand I'm being nuanced?"

Also, nuance is one of the more recent words to have a new usage like literally, which can now mean figuratively. When people say their argument is nuanced they mean it is good or correct. It reminds me of the use objective to describe a person to pretend they don't have biases to incorrectly validate their arguments.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

me: lot of pancakes out there

you: actually i see more waffles

(with peace and love haha you make excellent points i just couldn’t resist)

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Prior to the US election, there were many people that did this exact thing- only it was “oh yeah? Well… you support genocide!

They’re rarely here anymore. Which is what was predicted that typically warranted their response to begin with.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

On Lemmy it's more like:

"I don't like pancakes."

"Oh, so I suppose that waffles are perfect huh??"

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, it’s more like “you should delete windows now and get Linux”

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I agree that conversations sometimes end up being about Linux, which is unfortunate. People seldom recommend installing BSD or other free systems, which is a shame. The lesson here is that we should all install OpenBSD.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] odium@programming.dev 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 12 hours ago

Oh, so you hate Plan9 huh?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

A large portion of the world is experiencing political polarization. I see the same things happening on Lemmy happen on other social media websites.

The “if you don’t agree with me you must have the exact opposite opinion” approach to debate seems to be more a problem of the participants than the platform.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much every time I dare to say anything negative about Russia or China I'm swarmed with illiterate tankie lemmings who jump into the conclusion that criticising one empire automatically means supporting the other empire.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

wow can’t believe this guy wants me to kiss nazis on the lips /s

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 60 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And yet, you assumed an image on catbox would work on my device. Interesting.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 44 points 18 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

One time I said AI porn was unethical (because it is) and people here thought I was calling for a ban on all porn. At no point did I say that porn was unethical as a rule, and if I did believe that I wouldn't have mentioned AI at all.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It'd be nice if we could regulate porn in good faith. Every attempt to regulate it in the US has been an obvious attempt to shut it down, but it should be regulated like anything else. Sex toys, too. Lots of questionable substances are used in sex toys that probably shouldn't be inserted into the human body.

[–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sex toys are not regulated in the us?! There are a ton of regulations in the EU unfortunately not the same in all countries but some even classify them as medical devices. There is also the standard ISO 3533 "Sex toys — Design and safety requirements for products in direct contact with genitalia, the anus, or both" which is not required at the moment? is still used as a guideline.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

None beyond that ISO standard, which yes, is advisory. If it can be shown to be dangerously unsafe, it's subject to a recall, but that's only going to happen if the batteries tend to explode or something like that. There's lots of unsafe types of plastic that get through.

https://www.compliancegate.com/sex-toys-regulations-united-states/

The United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is an independent agency of the US government, overseeing the safety of consumer products. It develops and enforces safety standards in the United States. It also conducts research related to hazards and risks to the public caused by consumer products.

The CPSC has not yet developed a specific safety standard for sex toys. However, importers and manufacturers are required to report to the CPSC if their product could create a substantial risk of injury to the public, for example, because of a manufacturing defect or a design issue.

In practice, an unsafe sex toy is subject to a recall, regardless of whether it is covered by mandatory safety standards. Hence, importers or manufacturers of sex toys should ensure that their products are safe, for instance by complying with relevant voluntary safety standards.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

this shit pisses me off, my instinct is to say irrationally, but i feel it’s probably totally rational to have your own carefully chosen words used in such a hamfisted perversion

yesterday i made a post saying “hey look there’s a pattern to how ableist terms begin as descriptive or medical terms and its only later they are coopted as insults, the most recent of which is ‘neurodivergent’”

top comment? “dude stop telling us to stop using the word ‘neurodivergent.’” 30+ upvotes. and when i respond saying that actually making people abandon the word wasn’t my goal? downvotes.

like what even is the point of writing words if crusty ass debate lords insist on interpretation to mean the exact opposite 80% of the time?

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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

how dare you say we piss on the poor

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

i never said that! i only piss on the MOON

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Who's more poor than the moon, though? It not just doesn't have any money, it's not even ALLOWED to own money!

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[–] hmonkey@lemy.lol 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I like to insult and block these people. My fear of course, with Lemmy being so small, is I will block everyone. Then again, that's still better than dealing with illiterate, contrarian assholes

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I feel the same way, then I look at my blocklist and it's just lemmy.ml, anime subs, 3 people, some political terms, and a bot. I also have a .world account I use when I want to view the whole Lemmy experience anyways. Tbh I still feel kinda bad about blocking .ml, there was some cool peeps on there but I just can't deal with all the tankie drama

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

That’s French toast erasure.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Yep that's one of my pet peeves about the Internet. People love to try to put words in your mouth. It gets a bit tiring having to tell every one of those jabronis that I never said any of those words, and they should re-read what I did actually write instead.

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