You guys have much bigger problems to worry about right now tbh
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Yeah, if the fascist overthrow of democracy only had tariffs to worry about, we'd be doing well.
In the US.
Companies will find a way to apply this also to the rest of the world, citing some bogus reasons.
It's like how back when the Euro or the Pound were worth nearly 2x what the dollar was, a new device or piece of hardware would sell for $399/€399/£399.
The EUR and GBP prices included VAT, import fees and whatever other fees levied by the local govt on electronics.
I was borderline thinking of re-editing the headline to something along the lines of:
Proposed US tariffs may significantly raise gaming hardware costs for US gamers
But then decided against it as I generally think it's best to avoid title edits (other than minor corrections/edits that are explicit).
Not my president 😡
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(I live in Germany)
Well to be fair you already went through this shit once. Speaking of which, you're gonna send troops over here to help us out this time, right?
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It ain't gonna cost me shit because I'm spending next to nothing for the foreseeable future apart from necessities, and what little I do spend is gonna be bought as locally as possible. Fuck this country.
For how much people are worrying about tariffs I've lived my entire life with a 66% alcohol tax, 75% electronics tax, 240-380% vehicles tax and recently even saw 150% inflation.
Let's play a game!
Where do I live?
Turkey for sure
DING DING DING DING YOU WON!!!
How is Lemmy doing in the Turkish community? Is there a Turkish lemmy instance?
I might be one of the thousand people that actively use Lemmy in turkey. Reach out to me otherwise incorrect
Ooh I'll play. Australia?
Wow Australia has it like that? Nope. A lot less isolated
Hmmm, wanted to say Brasil, but maybe Sweden?
Brazil inflation had been really good in the past year or two, so I would not say is it.
Close, a country just south of it has a LOT of my people, they even call their capital an extended territory of theirs...
Argentina?
Recently 150% inflation, not Argentina, based on the "Recently"
Piracy 😍
Unfortunately, the only hardware component you can actually download is RAM. And increased hardware prices are going to be the primary cost factor.
The funny thing is, I believe RAM is actually one component that isn't manufactured as much in China (compared to other components).
Then it isn't so much playing games, it's the death of the entire industry. If no one can play anything, there's nothing to sell.
Neato!
Guess I'll have to keep my steam deck in good working order and enjoy gaming in a tribute sense.
Oh sorry I didn't read the article. Hardware makes more sense.
Until untracked VPNs are made illegal due to "security."
...make your own. Destroy it and remake it with a new IP once every few months, use headscale or something to make managing it easier.
I am this petty, absolutely.
(Or just get everything now, I mean. You got a month. Sorry if you didn't buy a few hard drives when Trump got elected. Some of us saw the writing on the wall.)
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Gaymers are the most oppressed group, literally 1984
'American gamers must return to buying American for their gaming needs. That’s why I have talked to Microsoft and they will lower their prices considerably. You are welcome, nerds.' -DT, probably soon
I think the most made-in-America gaming hardware is probably the mac pro
You're forgetting that they have to import all the components that are inside. Also mine says "Assembled in China", check yours, lol.
No amount of tariffs would get me to buy an Xbox lol
We as leftists, must organize in ways that match the fascists. Subversion of their goals is our goal. The class and culture war is in full effect and we must not be complacent.
I'm not at all sure you can assume gamers are leftists. An awful lot seem to be pretty hard right.
Yeah, gamer gate was one of the things that lead to Trump being elected in the first place. Plus the outcry that still happens when BIPOC, LGBT, or women protagonists are used. Hell, just look at any steam discussion board sometime and you'll see it.
As someone who games, gAmERs are the fucking worst
I kinda missed the gamer gate thing, was distracted by other shit and wasn't gaming at the time. Am I right in thinking it was some kind of misogynist incel bullshit? Like, girls aren't allowed to play with the boys' toys?
But yeah, I've seen enough stuff on discussion boards and heard enough anecdotes to see that there's a lot of bigotry in gaming. The hard right are successfully using it as a recruitment platform for kids. Fuckin appalling, but they are well organised and fascists don't have to worry so much about sectarianism.
I just don't get how people can't see that there's strength in diversity. Like, in gaming you want a team with different skills, abilities, experiences, and characteristics. It's the same IRL - a diverse community is a strong community.
It’s a shame. Seeing the bullshit companies have done to games for the sake of profit ought to be a pretty easy on-ramp to anti-capitalism. But just like in the real world, racist shit distracts them from any of that.
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*American?
Mostly I suppose - but in the example/hypothetical given in the article of Sony moving it's manufacturing from China to India, it would take 6-24 months minimum to find/develop the space they need and move the equipment. This cost to move all of the equipment half way across the world and the opportunity cost of out of stocks at stores worldwide when your distribution chain finally drys up - the cost was sited at 10%. If they MOVE a facility, I think that cost gets passed on to everybody worldwide.
There may be situations where JUST American production is moved to another country with more favorable tarrifs and worldwide production continues out of the existing facility, and probably in a situation like that, only the American costs would increase to cover the facility/equipmemt costs. But for that to make fiscal sense, this would have to be somehow CHEAPER than the price already elevated by the tarrifs. Companies could even in this case, theoretically hike prices worldwide to subsidize the impact to everybody. More people paying a higher prices mean everybody pays less.
Now, I couldn't say if there's any precident for the last line there. Purely hypothetical. But regardless - it's entirely possible it WON'T be JUST Americans paying higher prices.
They targeted gamers
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