They'll probably pin it on the actors and writers when we all know it's because they lost subscribers to their no password sharing policy.
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lost subscribers to their no password sharing policy.
What, we're just gonna gloss over how absolutely dogshit their in-house "Netflix Originals" media has become?
It's also because their current shows suck, and because any shows that are actually good get shitcanned after season 2, because Netflix sees less consumer growth after two seasons.
Their saving grace is stuff like Black Mirror but to be fair that didn't start out as a Netflix original and Charlie Brooker has tight control over his property.
When they started Netflix Originals, they knocked a bunch of them out of the park, now they just make weak trash with bad CGI, costumes, and makeup.
Stuff like 13 Reasons Why or The Witcher are just straight up irredeemable trash.
It’s also because their current shows suck, and because any shows that are actually good get shitcanned after season 2, because Netflix sees less consumer growth after two seasons.
I'm always surprised at how often other people (not you) will defend this practice from Netflix. It's classic case of following the data in a stupid way. If their data shows that interest drops off after two seasons, I don't doubt it.
But... that comes with a cost. They have built a reputation as a company that doesn't properly finish shows that they start, that will leave viewers hanging. That makes it harder to get people invested in a new series, even one that's well reviewed. Why get interested in something you know will end on a cliffhanger?
That kind of secondary order impact from their decision isn't going to show up in data. Doesn't change that it happens all the same.
Just gotta say you fucking nailed it. The long-term knock-on effect of people not wanting to start a new Netflix show only to like it and for it to be cancelled is too real.
It's basically the Google Effect, with how no one gets excited about their new products these days for much the same reason.
time slots in tv were a blessing in disguise because it made the choice "what should I run in this time slot" rather than "should I run this show".
This now leads to shows getting axed when in the past they be moved to a different time slot or would be left alone until they found something better.
Also their non-fiction is pretty bad too. It's almost as bad as Amazon Prime now.
Graham Hancock's series "Ancient Apocalypse" on there is essentially nonsense.
Why did it get approved? Because his son is senior manager of unscripted originals!
Also, they have a documentary on the "Blue Zones" where people supposedly live to 100 regularly. This is pseudoscience that has been exposed as poor record keeping for years.
I mean, they employ people who are clearly completely out of touch and don't give a shit about anything but making money. They don't care about controversy as long as people are just talking about it and not suing them or bringing legal charges against them.
Ryan Murphy apparently can't figure out that since nobody wants to talk to him about this that maybe it was a bad idea to begin with. Pretty much all the families and friends of victims thought the whole thing was in incredibly poor taste. Apparently all of them rejecting being involved wasn't enough to clue Ryan Murphy into this being incredibly offensive to them.
But Netflix doesn't care about anything but money.
Like when they removed an episode Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj's show in Saudi Arabia because they didn't want to offend anyone.
Reed Hastings on that decision:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/11/netflix-reed-hastings-saudi-arabia-patriot-act
“We’re not in the news business,” Hastings said at the New York Times’ DealBook conference, per Variety, of the decision to remove the episode after Saudi Arabia threatened legal action. “We’re not trying to do ‘truth to power.’ We’re trying to entertain…We don’t feel bad about that at all.”
Same reason they consulted with suicide prevention organizations on 13 Reasons Why: got told that this show would increase copycat suicides and it was written in a way that glorified suicide, but fuck it, who cares, let's make some money and throw this up on Netflix!
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/05/05/526871398/facts-about-teens-suicide-and-13-reasons-why
Even when they're told by everyone not to do it, Netflix does it because money matters more.
One Piece Live Action was better than I dared hope for. I hope the quality continues, but given their track record, I'm not holding my breath.
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I had to stop admitting how much I hated the Witcher because of the torrential down votes I would get. It was irredeemably unwatchable.
Honestly the first season gets a pass from me cause Henry cavill did a spectacular job even with lacklustre writing. That second season was a step back in every way and after finding out that they'll continue the series after cavill leaves because the writers are sh*tying on the ip, I just haven't bothered watching the 3rd season. Nothing their to keep me invested anymore.
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Don't forget the absolutely dogshit writing!
they lost subscribers to their no password sharing policy.
In what world? They gained subscribers when they did that lol.
Their content sucks, and people are starting to cut ties, but don't pretend it's because people were upset they couldn't share their accounts.
They lost subscribers and gained subscribers. The net total may have increased but they absolutely lost people from doing that.
Okay. You could say that if three people left and 8 million could have signed up. It'd be factually true. So?
The comment I replied to was claiming the price hike is because they lost subs because of the password changes. That implies the loss was big enough to reduce their income to the point they needed more. It's not.
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Sadly they had a net increase in subs after the policy change.
Whenever businesses try to 'pin' raising prices of an already profitable product on anything, we know the real justification is this:
"We know people are going to pay it and it will make us more money. That's why we do it. We're just saying it's something else for the useful idiots who think businesses are their friends."
They actually got more subs (in most countries), its just that theyre bloating up, and compeition is happening which atm is making for a better or worse depending on how you look at it, situation for the consumer.
It's been four months since I shitcanned Netflix. Have not missed it one bit. I already wasn't watching it because it had become little more than shitty true crime documentaries.
Kind of a shame cuz they'll occasionally release something like Beef, but it's not worth the 1 or 2 shows a year for me.
We dumped it back in April I think? It was whenever they started actually enforcing their password policy in Canada and we saw the writing on the wall. Our experience has been just like yours. We do not miss it, at all.
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We were definitely riding the cusp of cancellation for a while now, they raise the prices again and we're for sure out. Most of the content frankly sucks and what I wanted to watch on there is always locked away on some other equally shitty service. These fucking morons really don't understand how hard they're going to resurrect the pirating glory days with endless greed.
Honestly the quality is much worse now and it's noticeable. The worst thing is when it's really obviously because they've been calculating the best way to minimise costs on their best shows. Both top boy and sex education had their final seasons this year and both were rife with issues and numerous key actors just AWOL. Clearly Netflix has 3 season contracts and is playing hardball on the 4th season so people are just missing and everyone else just has to cover the slack leading to messy finales. I once thought nothing was worse than abrupt cancellations. Turns out dogsh*t endings are worse.
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Does anyone else feel like Blockbuster might be getting a comeback story?
Geez, we'd be looking at north of $20/mo. for the modern quality level/resolution.
At those rates, I'll just buy a 4K Blu-ray every month. At least that way I know I'm getting good content (and better A/V quality to boot).
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We all started as a frog in a pot of tepid water.
This feels like just the next step in removing adfree plans. Keep raising prices until subscribers significantly drop. Cancel adfree plan because “no one uses it”. Netflix is the scape goat and all other services follow suit.
Boom. Back to shitty cable.
I really wish my wife would let me cancel this.
Build her a Plex server and install Radarr and Sonarr. It's quite special. You can even configure it to automatically download movies and shows when she favourites them on Plex.
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I'm in the same boat. She's convinced that using twice it every 6 months is worth it. I don't even know what we pay for it these days, $14.99? Not worth making a big deal about at this point. We did cancel Hulu (better than Netflix,
imo) and paramount some months ago, so I'll take that and deal.
Ahoy me matey!
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"Hmm, we just finished killing off a revenue stream, better raise rates on the other."
Yes, I'm still mad about the DVD service ending. Legitimately hurt my interest in movies.
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