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[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Hey, anybody remember 12ish years ago when Alex Jones' worst fear was that Obama was going to use executive power to order the military to be deployed on American soil, violating Posse Comitatus, to massively round up and inter a bunch of Americans in FEMA reducation / death camps?

Anyone?

No one?

Whoo boy, growing up in a fundamentalist Christian household where I was the only one to go to college and everyone else became a Q Anon zombie sure was fuuuunnnnn!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

With conservatives every accusation is just projection

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Damn. I feel you. I wrote mine a cease and desist and moved 700mi.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Drive through rural America and see how many underpopulated small towns there are. Shuttered businesses for lack of customers. Abandoned buildings. These places need people.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It's kind of wild to me how many really small towns there are in the US. About 32% of towns in the U.S. have less than 500 residents.

For comparison, here in Brazil I lived most of my life in a town with ~35K residents and it was already considered a small rural town. Some of my family lives in a neighboring town with ~11K residents, and even in my hometown people joke about how small it is, and that there's basically nothing going on there. 1288 of towns in Brazil have less than 5K residents, or about 23.1%, and there are no towns with less than 500 residents. Meanwhile in the US 76% of towns have less than 5K residents.

Again, it's just kind of wild to me. I remember playing (reading?) the Echo VN and thinking "Man, a dying town with only 50 people? That doesn't sound realistic," but apparently that's way more common than I thought.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (8 children)

My slightly educated guess would be that's a consequence of America's race westward in the 1800's, only stopping long enough to annihilate the indigenous population and set up a rest stop for the next batch.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Railroads played big role. Trains needed more water or coal to run the engine. So every 15 to 20 miles or so, depending on terrain, a water depot was erected, and there a new town popped up. Some survived. Some didnt. Few are thriving. Just pull up a map and follow a rail line in the great plains region of the usa. Then just measure it out. Its impossible to miss once you notice it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Funny thing is that even the immigrants are smart enough to know the shouldn’t settle in these places because they’re going down the toilet. But the locals? We’re being ignored! Save our useless town with no economic prospects, no educated workforce, and no infrastructure to support anything worthwhile! No, of course we won’t move!. ..while they proceed to vote against any social policy that might help them or their future generations out of their trap.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

No, of course we won’t move

Try "Can't"

I don't know why you city slickers think packing up all your shit and moving into a new house in a new town is free, but it isn't. We ARE being ignored, worse than that, we're being left to die.

You wanna get me outta the ruins of farmland? Send a bus to pick me up, make sure there's a two month paid in advance hotel waiting for me when I get there, and have me a job waiting.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Don't worry. This isn't the only Trump plan that will tank the economy. I just wish the rest of us didn't have to suffer because of all those idiots not paying attention.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 month ago (24 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, we definitely need less people in this country. I’m sure it’ll help fill all the job vacancies and increase productivity and GDP.

I will make sure to bring this up when any republicans complain that are so many vacancies because no one wants to work anymore.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Lebensraum.

It doesn't need to be a real problem, for them to make it one.

The immigrant work force will still be there, they'll just be put in camps and forced to work for nothing, while white working class people are sold the idea of "claiming back" "their" land, while the capitalists take it all over in their name (and never share any of the profits or benefits, of course, with a new scapegoat as for why as they need it).

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes a Year

If he actually succeeds in doing this, guess who’s going to be made to fill in that hole.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is step one to collapsing Social Security and Medicare.

Knee cap all the funding from folks who never collect on it, then say, see? It’s collapsing earlier than we thought.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you lived in the 80's, you know where you're going with this.

Prisons. Good old indentured servitude.

Get ready for more jaywalking arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

The funny part is that that is still likely less that a bus load of billionairs actually paying their taxes like the rest of us do.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (16 children)

When again are americans using their right to bear arms to protect themselves against an authoritarian government? If you dont do it now never again use this argument for the second amendment.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of Americans don't feel this is authoritarian and actually welcome it. They would love to have Trump as president for life.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (9 children)

How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The NAZIs made Germany a slave labor nation-state.

That is what is happening here.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

It's a pretext. And can expand to anyone the state doesn't want around.

Deportation doesn't have to be immediate, you could end up in a cage indefinitely.

Portland Oregon was a sneak preview of what Trump will do (Sending federal resources where they are explicitly not wanted, and kidnapping citizens)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can't beat Trump's brand of fascism with spineless morally flexible subservient people. People are going to have to fight back do what they can. Dems are already rolling over in advance and some are going to fight with what resources they have. It is going to be rough.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

The dems are the wimpy kids who internalized being nice to their bullies will somehow earn them respect and show they are the better people. In reality their abusers only hold them in even more contempt and spit at them at every turn.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wrong community. This dystopia is about get real interesting, real fast 😬

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Nothing cheaper than using the military, no siree. What's the going rate for toilet seats at the Pentagon these days?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The whole toilet seat thing is as misunderstood. If the Air force needs a new toilet seat for one of it's jets, and that jet isn't in production anymore, and you can't just go to homedepot for aircraft parts, then you have to order a bespoke seat.

Now setting up the tooling for an injection molded plastic seat, only to produce a limited run, maybe in the dozens, $10,000 per seat is a reasonable price.

I'm sure the Pentagon buys toilet seats at the regular price. The interesting thing about Pentagon bathrooms is that it has double the number it needs because of segregation.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (14 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This move actually makes zero fucking sense. Having people in our country who are willing to work less money than the average citizen labor costs are low. That basically means more money for him and his oligarch buddies.

He's already won the election. He doesn't have to keep posturing like this. And he's not going to be elected again, so either he (hopefully) has no third term, or he'll prevent the 2028 elections from being free and fair.

My prediction is that nothing will actually come of this and he's saying this to keep his approval rating high.

Either that or he's even more racist than he is greedy and self-centered

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He’s already won the election. He doesn’t have to keep posturing like this.

That was never his end goal, and you're naive to think otherwise.

As for the rest, you're missing a key step - to get them all "deported", first they need to be rounded up, and put in camps (we already past this point a while back), and then since they're already in camps, they might as well be put to work. For free (another point we've past). When they start dying off in big enough numbers for it to affect production, there will be another group marked for "deportation" and rounded up for their turn.

This isn't fascism's first fucking rodeo, and it isn't only now getting started, it has been in motion for a good while now.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don’t forget to put all the books in a pile and set fire to them. And smash their shop windows.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Nice, by the book. The fascist admin guide as seen in most of Europe, recently

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump thinks that the best way to avoid the last of the NY state trial is to create chaos and violence until we cry uncle.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are dark days ahead.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

This dystopia is starting to heat up 😬

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder what the solution will be if other countries wont take our undesirables.

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