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EDIT: I should clarify, by Jill Stein, I mean what her party's official platform and policies are, as reflected by her statements in interviews

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If there is proof that she is a Russian asset, why did the Democrats not oppose here and use legal measures against it?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

probably for the same reason they took no measures against trump when they accused him of the same.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

they win.

in 2016 jill stein campaigned on canceling student debt. that was a major part of her platform. in 2020, joe biden included student debt cancelation in his platform, and he won.

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Every four years Jill Stein emerges from her burrow. If she sees her shadow, it will be four more years of fascism.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And Trump would have won this time around, even if Jill Stein wouldn't have ran. That's how big his margin was. Dude, he won electoral AND popular vote.

You all need to take a look at yourselves and realize why you lost so bad. It sure as fuck wasn't because of Jill Stein. lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

It's not exactly "us." We don't determine whether Kamala runs with an asinine message like "we're going to hire Republicans" or "I wouldn't do anything different than Biden."

That's her stupidity and I think why so many people sat out the election. As the articles are pointing out, the people that sat out the election were in "safe" states, so they were completely uninspired to vote but knew not voting wouldn't have affected the outcome (except locally which is still stupid.)

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago

Do not compare Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein. Jill Stein is an anti-vaxxer and a Russian spy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago

You may as well ask, what would happen if the Democratic party were a different party?

The DNC pulled out all the stops to keep Sanders from the general election, twice. They can absolutely win elections, when they want to block any movement toward the left.

I recommend listening to this: Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

Don't know much about Stein, but most of what I've heard from Sanders sounds like the kind of sanity that the asylum riots to resist. The USA has no Left.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Jill Stein the useful idiot?

[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

You people will eventually need to understand that you're wrong and you're the reason Trump is in office. Hope you figure it out before you're on the wrong end of an open class war.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

You people!

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago

Yep! This!!

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They'd win. Assuming they invest in messaging and campaigning, instead of whatever the fuck Harris spent a billion on.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

She spent a million of it on this chat with Oprah.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

i want to believe that the democrats could have won; but they're so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory that they still would have let trump win again.