User tags are going to be so useful. Keep up the good work, @[email protected]!
Another day of boost being ahead of the curve hehe
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Oh hell yes.
Thank you! Voyager is awesome.
Fixed user bans with expiry. Can I get an explanation of what this means?
I’m hoping it means that issuing temp bans Weil actually ban and showing mod logs. Prior to- only perma-bans seemed to take.
It is. And I have to give a big thanks to the dev . Really amazing job to bring lemmy to a state of the art client for iOS
Very cool!! I was just thinking about how this would be nice to have. Thank you devs, and op for sharing!
I mean Voyager is like 15 billion miles from Earth and has been operating since the 70s. The Apollo program was very impressive but was discontinued decades ago.
I just realized why it's called Voyager. Thanks!
I also thought it was about space. Good for the app though.
Here’s your upvote. Now take a lap.
~~i don't see this and the app is updated :'3~~
nvm it's still experimental for now
In my mind, Voyager was always on the forefront with features compared to other Lemmy clients. I'm surprised it took this long to implement this!
Still, nothing but grateful for the Voyager devs.
I know Christian (the OG Apollo Dev) was not happy about Voyager, but their work has been stellar imo. Loving the work, and keep it up.
Other than sounding a bit annoyed that the UI was identical, did Christian express further unhappiness? Love(d) both apps
I haven’t really seen anything since the exodus but I think he’s just not the kind of guy who cares too much about niche decentralized internet communities.
He’s very much in the Applesphere of polished premium apps that do specific things. Which is fine. He’s frankly the only dev I knew of who did that without being a total ghoul and even then I was seeing a lot of complaints about people being begged for subscriptions, which I never found excessive (he claimed those people were experiencing a bug).
I don’t really know what to make of his opinion, I don’t know if he saw the UI as a threat or a liability to him or anything like that.
I would love Voyager (mine is still called Wefwef) as a native iOS app because I run into some quirks of the web app backend (especially when editing text), but what we have now is excellent and has made the transition much more bearable. I do still feel like something is missing and I miss how much more connected with the world I felt as a longtime Reddit user, but it’s okay, people’s primary platforms used to change all the time (and as yet another wave of Twitter users are finding out, it can be a hard first few months).
I decided a while ago that I don’t think his complaints are a big deal to me, especially because he said he had no plans to develop a lemmy client of his own, which I would have happily supported.
After his experience with Reddit, I would have thought he would support anything that helped users leave the platform, and if that transition is made easier by a very similar app that doesn’t compete with anything he makes, why complain?
That’s just my take on it, others can feel differently.
I would have probably dropped lemmy because I couldn’t find a client that I liked until I came across the early versions of voyager/wefwef.
Yeah I share the same general impression of him.
What do you notice specifically with text? I have found the app from the app store looks and feels almost identical to Apollo and behaves like a native app, particularly compared to stuff made with Flutter for example.
Just enabled tags, but I'm not really clear, what are tags?
To tag someone, click their username to go to their user page. Then click the three dots in the top right corner and then select "edit tag."
Or I can just hold (E: long press) your handle on the comment and do that from here. It's supposed to track from which comment you did that as well but I never tested it.
Oooh, you're right! I didn't realize that worked as well. Thanks!
Neat.
I'm also seeing numbers next to some people's name. It looks like its tracking net "karma" for the user? But its obviously not accurate (you have a [+4] as of writing).
Is that related to tagging?
That number should be how the total of upvotes and downvotes you have personally given that user. Useful for finding who to block when you see a troll comment and realize that nearly every comment you've seen from that user has been a waste of your time.
User tagging was what I was waiting for to try Voyager again (I prefer tagging users over blocking them), but per-user vote tracking was the killer feature I wanted an app to have.
I guess this is goodbye, Boost. Time to write a user tag import script!
I feel triggered by this entire sub-chat. My comments are half flippant, half heckle, half earnest and actual, half pedantic, half questioning, and no math (clearly).
Point is, I'm gonna offend people and their judgement will be sticky. What if my first impression is for a dickish reminder about mass nouns or a jab against the GqP? I love this part.
Please tell me there's a tag that says "80% horseshit but occasionally a mild zinger or honest comment" to put up near my name. We all can't be consistently awesome like FlyingSquid !
YEAH?! WELL YOU CAN KISS MY-
Oh, sorry. Thanks!
Tagged. ;)
Ooooo, now thats neat. Yeah, def gonna flip that one back on.
Really appreciate the info.
Yep! But if you'd like to disable it just go to Settings > User Tags > and toggle off "Track Votes"
there is no push notification and widget like original Apollo
Push notification cost money iirc.
The app can work in the background and periodically check for new messages, just like email clients do with IMAP accounts.
Which would be a pull, not a push.
Push requires having a server to push those notifications. That requires having an entire Voyager server that stores your credentials and periodically checks for new notifications, sending them when it gets them.
Money, yes, but also an issue with having a third party server storing credentials.
Why not use UnifiedPush?
I’m not super familiar with UnifiedPush, but it seems like you still need a server to send those notifications. Unless the Lemmy instances themselves start sending them, they have to come from somewhere.
I think lemmy doesn't currently support push notifications so the app would have to stay awake in the background to check for them
It's neat how the receipt and storage of push 'notes could easily leverage the short-message idea in the original sendmail spec.
You don’t need to have the app running in the background. Notifications can be pushed from the cloud.
Problem is, that costs money to host and run that job to check for notifications. This is why a lot of small developers end up burying notifications behind a paywall.
So then „bury“ it behind a paywall, why is that bad? A server costs money so let the people who want to use that server pay their part. I see no problem with that.
I mean yeah, but hosting and running a voyager server that stores our login credentials would be a more complicated and difficult option for what gain? The simplest solution would probably be just waking up the app every so often to check, I think eternity does that
Speaking for iOS, I don’t believe this is possible. iOS has rules around what background processes can and can’t run on-device.
For notifications coming from the internet, in order to preserve battery life, Apple wants cloud APNs to wake up terminated apps to deliver notifications.
I know android does some similar battery preservation stuff around notifications, but I’m a little less familiar with that.
Meh, I bought Ultra lifetime after a few months of using Apollo and never even bothered using push notifications. Which is funny, because it was the main thing I missed when I originally switched from Android and RiF in 2020. Voyager is FOSS so it's understandable that there won't be push notifications, as that require servers which cost money, and it also introduces potential security issues. User tags on the other hand, were something Apollo sorely needed, and the dev never got around to it.
TIL iOS finally got widget support a few years ago
I tried to use Voyager on ios 17 to add widget. But, the option is unavailable. Howver Apollo sideloaded can do that.