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It's so bad that my fiancée has some bras that say she's a B cup and others that says she's a D cup. In order to go bra shopping, you have to actually try them on to find out if they fit.

If I had to try on underwear to see if they fit, I might not bother with underwear at all!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Its even different in different parts of the world. Related Wiki: wikipedia-bra size

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Now but I had my suspicions considering the trend with women's clothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago

Good thing guy underwear doesn't give one fuck about the shape of the penis. They either mush it into the crutch to defeature the shlong, or they let the whole thing just flap around under loose shorts.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Around 19, I’d say. 42 now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Right now reading the title of this post.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

You all need to adopt metric for bras

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

When going for brands, like Lounge Underwear or even more expensive ones like Marlies Dekkers, Aubade or Lise Charmel (instead of cheap imports from China) there's almost never a problem with the size. There have been maybe 2 or 3 bras (cheap ones) that did not fit in the last twelve years and everything else has the same size and fits her.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

Trying to buy bras for my wife has been an eye opening experience.

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned here yet is the Wild West of standards once you get to big cup sizes. Apparently DD is the same as E, DDD is an F, and I've even seen a DDDD, which would be a G. Depending on cuts, brands, and styles, her size can go from a DD to an I.

Not to mention these things are like $100 for a "cheap" one. The amount of engineering it has to take to design that shit is probably a few years of grad school.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I would assume they're not but that's because I notice that depending on who makes what shoe depends on what size I have. I also see this in pants and shorts for men as well. I just assume nothing is actually standardized due to QA never really catching things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

In theory they're standardized. But in practice, no they're not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Today years old

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I've been married for 8 years, and I had no idea 😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Never been underwear shopping with the wife? I usually take my wife once a year. Think of it this way. A good bra is like a good pair of work boots. You get a shit pair and you're in pain every time you wear them. Bras are the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes and no. Sexy underwear, sure, but never a big talk around the vast differences. I told her about this comment, and I got a 10 minute talk about it 😂 no regrets!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Lol she will be impressed if you take her out for shopping for some bras that fit her. Glad to help

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

They're definitely defined differently between some countries. Japanese cup sizes are different to US ones

[–] [email protected] 36 points 13 hours ago

Well, today years old. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Clothing sizing in general is just arcane at this point.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

This. I mostly buy size S t-shirts, sometimes M, occassionally XS. I dont even care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

If the shirt isn't xl, I can't raise my hands without showing my belly.

Also if the shirt is bigger than L, I'm swimming in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Some brands do slim sizes. Small shirts don't cover my belt but mediums can be baggy on me, but medium slim fits perfectly.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 16 hours ago

Today years old.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Men's clothing sizes are a little dumb sometimes but I can usually take a tape measure to my waist and correctly order pants. Your guess is as good as mine what the difference between "boot cut" and "relaxed fit" are, and I would swear T-shirt sizes have shrunk since I was a teenager. As in, I can compare a Medium I've had since the Dubya administration to an XL today. But getting fitted for a suit, they measure me in inches and the clothing is more or less sized in inches.

Women's clothing sizes have had two different ice pick lobotomies. Women come in a wider range of sizes and aspect ratios, women's clothing is pretty much universally designed to fit tighter, but on the rack they're given one meaningless size number. a 12 is bigger than a 10, who knows by how much, and there's nothing on the girl you can measure with a tape to get that number, and there is no standard here at all. Why they haven't revolted I have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago

There is a whole NPR episode on women sizing and history of sizing in general.

Eye opening how stupid it is

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would swear T-shirt sizes have shrunk since I was a teenager.

I thought that too, but it turns out I just got fat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

I have size M shirts from high school that fit like an L on the rack today.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It's also the fact that cup size is not necessarily independent from band size, that's where the trick is. I used to think I'm an A with a high band size as I'm huge with no booba, like a 39A or something but those never fit that well.

According to ABraThatFits methodology I'm actually 36C, which somehow does fit and super well, though by common and dudebro methodology I'm most certainly more of an "A cup" if that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 16 hours ago

It's because whatever maniac invented the sizing scheme decided that every letter represents 2 inches more around your body at the weirdest boobage point than just below it. What a bonkers system! A woman with 38B bras is 38 inches around at the band, and 40 inches around at the girls. Nonsense. The way dudes THINK it works makes so much more sense.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sad I missed the days of girls wearing no bras. Must have been nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

You don't live in Australia then.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Have her go and get fitted. Many women don't know what their band/cup size really is.

Also, IMO, women's pant sizes are where the real absurdity in sizes is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not much help to know what cup size you are if the bra companies are only pretending to be standardized

[–] [email protected] 40 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Only knowing your cup size is not enough. You need to know the underbust size as well. A 32D and a 34C have cups with the same volume. Sure, there is still some variance but not as much as I thought before I learned that.

Edit: This calculator and the community of the same name on the-site-that-shall-not-be-named helped me a lot in finding my actual bra size. Now my only problem is that almost no company here has more than two or three bras in that size...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

And it is more complicated even than that. I am a small busted woman and yet the best fit I can get is 34D. The 34 makes sense, underbust is 33. The D is what I measure but most have too much room. I still need that size because the circumference of the boobs fits in that wire; any smaller is too narrow.

I think bras need 3 measurements not 2. I need band 34, wire size D, cup capacity closer to C. And there are plenty of women in the opposite situation too, with more projection but smaller circumference.

So the non-standardized sizing is a workaround for that problem.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

I'm gay, so current age I guess

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Most of the bras that my girlfriend gets fits on her first try, although she does tend to prefer sister sizes over her real size. If your girlfriend is having issues with bras fitting, it might be worthwhile to read up on how bra sizes are actually calculated and do a measurement yourself. Funny enough, most girls don't seem to know how the bra size system works either and they just get their sizes through trial and error, which seems like what has happened here.

The letter by itself is fundamentally meaningless. A 32D is equivalent to a 34B! And most girls severely underestimate their actual size. What would colloquially be called a B or C is actually an E

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you know how the bra size system works. The number is the size measured underneath the breasts. The letter is the cup size determined as a the difference between the measurements across and underneath the breasts.

Therefore no way is 32D equivalent to 34B. Or at least it shouldn't be equivalent, but manufacturers don't respect the standard, so the equivalence is not impossible in some cases. It's really super inconsistent.

Also breasts can have different shapes and can be placed closer or further appart, which makes finding a fitting bra very hard for some people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

32 + 4 = 36

34 + 2 = 36

Am I missing something? Barring some extremely stupid math error, I don't see how I'm incorrect

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago

The cup size SHOULD be the difference in inches between the circumference below the breast and circumference around the breast.

3" difference would be a C cup

5" would be DD.

Why they double up some letters and not others, I couldn't tell you. 🤷🏻‍♂️

My ex used to sell underwear.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is the case with all clothing.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

There are plenty of brands that follow mostly standard sizing, as I understand it. But popular brands in the US (like Victoria Secret) generally don’t.

I fell down the r/abrathatfits rabbit hole one day, years ago. It’s fascinating.

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