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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (14 children)

But thank God we saved Palestine from the evil black lady right? /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"We stood up for our PRINCIPLES!!!"

-- screamed over the sound of brown people being exterminated

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[–] [email protected] 219 points 4 days ago (75 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh he'll help end the genocide alright. You can't genocide a people that's already wiped off the planet.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (8 children)

ukraine is gonna get 'helped' similarly. putin will have a free pass once the u.s. aid stops. i don't think the other nato countries or the e.u. can cover that, especially long-term.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I truly cannot grasp how uninformed one has to be to claim to be for Palestinians but think helping Trump's odds was strategically better. Such profound ignorance is on par with maga, themselves.

On another note I want absolutely nothing to do with Mehdi Hasan. I supported him for quite some time but he got tunnel vision to such a degree he ended up thinking completely irrationally and contributing to the problem. He's venturing into Jill Stein territory for me.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (15 children)

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

I got banned from a community saying this as calmly as possible XD Idk i feel like theses tankies who were overwhelmingly hostile are either shills or hypocrits who just want to hurt the big bad capitalist, short and long term consequences be damned. (Tankies=/=Leftists just a reminder)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat's fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (31 children)

in reality it was the 20 million voters that abstained from voting this election.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (12 children)

They literally stood off to the side and allowed in the man who will facilitate the complete annihilation of Palestine, so in truth they really never gave a shit about Palestinians, it was all bullshit. With Harris you at least had someone reacted to criticism and you could work with but Trump doesn't give a single fuck about criticism or what people want

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (5 children)

May the people in this sub who screeched Genocide Joe and threatened Kamala over her continued support for Israel get the policies they voted for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We told you it was a losing issue. You called us Russian bots and tankies and trumpists because that was easier than listening to something you didn't want to hear.

I voted for Harris. But that doesn't mean I'm blind to the suicidal boneheadedness of the pro-genocide centrist wing of the Democratic Party. We tried to warn you. You thought you knew better. In your overwhelming and unearned arrogance, you concluded that anyone that was willing to read the writing on the wall couldn't possibly be an actual person with agency.

Now go hug Dick Cheney. He's the only vote any of you cared about.

If the anti-genocide left were too insignificant to treat like humans, they're too insignificant to blame. Centrists ran the campaign they wanted. Their instincts were and remain shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

But at least they got join MAGA to own the libs.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Didn't you know trump will stop the genocide....by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map... can't have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

Check mate libruls

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Trump voters: "Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first".

Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

Trump voters: Pikachu face

Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

And these fuckin morons will still say there was no wars under Trump

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It does feel about on-brand for this timeline that Trump of all leaders might get the credit for fixing* the Middle East problem.

  • where the problem is the existence of the conflict, and the solution of a glassy wasteland littered with charred skeletons will successfully not have regional conflicts for a thousand years.
[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (4 children)

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

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