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Former CIA Director Leon Panetta warned that Trump’s return to the White House could embolden Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, giving him a "blank check" in the Middle East and increasing the risk of war with Iran.

Panetta expressed concern that Trump would support Netanyahu's aggressive stance against Iran without restraint, potentially worsening regional instability.

Panetta also predicted Trump might allow Russia to retain parts of Ukraine if he returns to office, though he doubted Trump’s negotiation skills.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to "capitulate" to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat's fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

in reality it was the 20 million voters that abstained from voting this election.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, because DNC didn't do a spectacularly bad job of fucking up the campaign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I like how you flipped the script by blaming the group (the voters) and not the individual responsible (the DNC) for making the horrible decisions resulting in an ongoing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

The voter voted in a guy that attempted an insurrection, so yup I think they hold some responsibility here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So you're admitting that you just vote for whoever you were told to vote for?

You just follow along and do whatever the crowd does?

You're admitting that you don't have the mental capacity to identify the threat toward democracy and make the decision to vote for a candidate that isn't a direct threat to global stability?

Let me explain it in a way that a simple-minded individual could understand.

Votes, elect candidates. Votes are given by voters, not political parties.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

These arguments are so straw man that they give me hay fever.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

May the people in this sub who screeched Genocide Joe and threatened Kamala over her continued support for Israel get the policies they voted for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

But at least they got join MAGA to own the libs.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

How would that be different than the current plan under Biden?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So the same thing as Biden?

The war with Iran is already on the doorstep of happening under Bidens unconditional aid.

Such a shame Kamala did not get elected. Who also promised unconditional aid and advocated for starting a war with Iran.

Posts like this would have a lot more impact if the Democrats were different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

No Kamala would‘ve saved us! /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

I believe Putin's power over Trump will prevent anyone doing anything extreme about Iran. Russia has always had an interest in controlling Iran and certainly would not approve the US taking it out.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (12 children)

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I got banned from a community saying this as calmly as possible XD Idk i feel like theses tankies who were overwhelmingly hostile are either shills or hypocrits who just want to hurt the big bad capitalist, short and long term consequences be damned. (Tankies=/=Leftists just a reminder)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

Don't they even know who they picked to represent them?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

He spent all 4 years totaling around 3 trillion in Afghanistan, to accomplish nothing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

I posted the same video. It's actually kinda incredible what happened.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, Trump will definitly ensure that the suffering of Palestenian people ends quickly

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

Judging by the lack of consequences for the previously observed war crimes, my bet is they'll prolong the suffering to sate their revenge lust. See if anyone bothers to step in when they erect full blown torture camps.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't you know trump will stop the genocide....by writing a check so large that Israel completely removes Palestinians from the map... can't have a genocide of Palestinians if there are no more Palestinians.

Check mate libruls

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

Fucking DUH, god damn.

[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 day ago (74 children)

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fairly certain the economy was the number one issue for voters that switched parties. I have not seen the numbers on how the genocide affected voting outcomes, but the blame rests squarely on Kamala’s shoulders for running a shitty campaign.

Voters don’t owe the politicians anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Voters owe themselves something. But instead they decided to crash the economy, end democracy and start more genocides. Because Kamala ran a shitty campaign.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I totally understand that sentiment, being myself someone who voted for Harris as the better candidate, but I think the results show it wasn't abstaining anti-genocide voters who caused her shortfall. Millions of people who voted blue in 2020 didn't vote or in many cases actually voted red on Tuesday, way more than the few pro-Palestine abstainers likely amount to. And I doubt many ppl who care about Palestine would've switched and voted for Trump.

As much as I'd love a simple, singular group to blame for Tuesday's horrible result, it's way too early and multifaceted of an issue to do so imo. Depressingly, I think it's moreso just uninformed voters who thought that since inflation wasn't as bad from 2016-2019 that Trump would be better for consumer prices, and they didn't really think about it any harder than that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. I'm blaming everyone who didn't vote for whatever reason. It was Israel for a large number of them and this story involves that, so I am pointing the finger at them in this case.

But I don't care why someone didn't vote. They chose to accept the possibility that they would be helping a fascist, genocidal dictator get into office by doing nothing to oppose him. Whatever reason they had was a bad one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Oh gotcha yep totally agree

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