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The bottom of the article links to the history (individual features) of other IM programs from that era as well like ICQ and Yahoo Messenger.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

WhatsApp (& mobile internet in general) replaced it for me. It's no longer a requirement for both my friends and myself to be at our computers at the same time to talk shit to each other.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Messenger-> Office Communicator -> Lync -> Skype for Business -> Teams. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_for_Business

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Wonder who was the last of your friends to log on are they still there?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That’s ok, we have teams now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Fuck all y'all....I like teams, for work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

give me back messenger. at least it was a cohesive usable app.

teams is just a low budget email emulation machine that still fails to deliver a functioning inbox, much like outlook.

I'd rather drag my dick through HIV riddled discord memes then use that rotting pile of shit called teams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The browser versions of teams and outlook are surprisingly stable. The desktop software for both are beyond broken.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, though stability doesn't make an app usable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

True, but it's the only thing you can do if your company forces you to use them...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft Teams is sorta like the all grown up version of MSN, with the colour drained from it and “fun” features out of the box feeling dead on the inside

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Just like a real adult human

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I might have been 10 minutes too young for ICQ. I think that's what the college kids were playing with when I was in high school. For my cohort it was the big three: MSN, Yahoo! and AIM. You probably had all three installed on your computer and probably all running at once. They're probably why my entire generation can touch type. Vital tool for teenage social life at the turn of the century.

This was Microsoft's era, too. The main reason Apple survived the 90's was because Microsoft invested in them to counter anti-trust allegations. They paid Apple to keep existing so they couldn't be called a monopoly. Internet Explorer was the web browser, any others in use were a rounding error. No one had a Mac, a few people were still clinging to their Amigas. THE platform for personal/home computing and internet access was a Pentium PC with Windows ME or XP, which came with MSN Messenger out of the box.

Two things happened nearly simultaneously: Facebook Messenger and the iPhone. Graduating high school in 2005, your freshman year of college you probably started hearing about the cool new site that's kinda like MySpace except it's only for college kids. By your junior year all your new college friends were on Facebook and all your old high school friends that never logged on let alone talk to you were on MSN. And if you graduated in 2005, your junior year was in 2007, the year the iPhone was launched. MSN Messenger had been present as baked in "functions" of certain media phones at the time, but I don't think they ever made it to the App Store or even the Play Store on Android. Facebook was fast to adopt mobile apps, and for awhile there it was the one messenger service that interoperated between desktop on a web browser and smart phones across platforms. SMS didn't run on the desktop, iMessage is Apple-only, AIM, MSN and Yahoo were nowhere to be found and Telegram, Signal, Discord etc. weren't around yet. So everyone standardized on Facebook Messenger.

Meanwhile, Microsoft bought and ruined Skype.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a diehard Netscape Navigator user, I scoff at your browser choice.

The running joke in my day was everyone used Internet Explorer... to download Netscape.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In 2003, Internet Explorer had a 95% market share. Your running joke was demonstrably untrue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Some of us are older than you think we are

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

I mean, you name dropped Netscape. Your next of kin is probably rehearsing the talk where they take your car keys away as we speak.

The topic of discussion is MSN Messenger, its popularity and demise, which puts us in the period between 1999 and ~2008. Especially during the first half of that decade, practically everyone was using IE. And not really liking it, but using it nevertheless.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that’s what the college kids were playing with when I was in high school.

Started college in 1995, and I indeed did have ICQ before too long. Still remember my number (6725571).

You probably had all three installed on your computer and probably all running at once.

I remember using a program called Trillian (which is still around!) in the late 90s/early 00s. It allowed you to connect multiple IM accounts in one app. It was sorta finicky, but it got the job done.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I haven't thought of those apps for years, I used Pidgin! I had to look up the program name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Blast from the freaking past! Wow, you just unlocked some memories for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I still use Pidgin, because I still have some old work related contacts who use Skype, and I'd much rather use Pidgin than keep Skype around. It will do discord too but it's a bit kludgey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It will do discord? That's amazing, I will have to look back into it. Discord has been awful for a while, but getting people to switch is impossible. 😩

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You nailed my experience. Though AIM was preferred. I begrudgingly used MSN too for a couple people who weren't allowed to install AIM.

[–] [email protected] 242 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Microsoft pivoted to Skype. Saved you a click and reading about 1000 words.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Which Microsoft then shit all over (to be fair, Skype started that process even before MS bought them) and eventually renamed it to Microsoft Teams.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Actually, to Lync first. Then Teams. All three suck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm so old that I used Skype when it had a red logo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

And the video chats were choppy and black and white and with delayed audio. Those were the days...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (8 children)

And for a while, there was also Skype for Business (formerly Lync (formerly Communicator)).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

If I remember correctly the Skype for business still identified as communicator on the about page.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

For a while? Our business used it until ... this year. It's finally EOL this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

The process was skype.exe, so Lync was Skype with a skin.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm surprised no one mentioned Facebook.

I recall using MSN as far as in to 2009, but the friends I was connected with migrated to Facebook when their chat feature rolled out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

From my ignorant point of view Microsoft had in its very own hands a solid competitor to Facebook but ended doing absolutely nothing with it.

I still can recall the MSN/Hotmail profiles - it was kind of a news feed that recorded all your statuses from MSN (or you could add your own there). Your contacts could add comments on those. I think at some point you could add posts with pictures too.

But all of that just disappeared when they ditched MSN.

They could've beat Facebook in its own game easily, as they had the advantage of their username - but somehow they missed on that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Trillian gang

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