When people wax poetic about awful shit that was โharmlessโ what they are really upset about is that โit was harmful to a group of people it used to be ok to harm and I wish I could harm them againโ
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I was in a bar i used to hang out in almost 20 years ago. It was kinda weird to see the same people still sitting there. There were two guys on my table that i knew from back then, but even then, not too well. They talked about how these days, they can't say anything anymore, not like in the good old days. They said it over and over, just phrased it differently every time. So i asked: sorry, but what can't you say anymore.
One of them shrugged and said: you know, things that were okay in the good old days?
Like what?
Things.
You want to be racist and homophobic, which by the way you still can, but you don't want to deal with the repercussions.
It used to be okay
FOR YOU!!
The ones who claim their rights and freedoms are being taken away are the ones who are being told "being racist isn't tolerated anymore"
Oh no, it's nothing as introspective as that, it's a much more lazy mindless stance than that, it's just knee-jerk "They took [some thing] away from me!"
I find that people who use the word woke as an insult don't really understand what it means.
Take the red pill Neo and wake up.
Wakes up to all the injustices in the world.
Noooo Neo, not like that!!!
regularly scheduled reminder that the matrix was written by at least one trans person (can't be fucked to research more than that) who outright said it's a "trans metaphor", according to the BBC.
Both the sisters who wrote it are. However they also claimed it was a trans-metaphor quite a long time afterwards.
A lot of it doesn't make sense as a trans-metaphor, so I'm not entirely convinced of this claim. Its a great film, with some horrible sequels.
One of the main characters, Switch, was meant to change genders in and out of the matrix. Itโs not all trans metaphors, but there is much going on there that is relevant,
The vast majority of the films supposed metaphors are mostly around secret knowledge, and discovering that what they were being told was a lie to control.
It could be read as an egg moment, but from the outset many groups were claiming that it represented them and I could easily see why they would say that.
The only reason I said what I did was because so much of it is vague and anything could be read into it.
Itโs not all trans metaphors
What was actually made (as the first film) has very few trans-metaphors.
Yes, in think the directors have even said it wasnt consciously a trans based decision at the time. They just thought it would be cool and make a good story.
You mean, he woke up?
yeah, and then they are like "wake up sheeple" and i'm like "make up your mind"
woke = educated, progressive, rational
Back when it was still running I remember my Dad trying to explain to his parents how appalling it was.
"If it was so popular why did they cancel it" is my usual snipe.
Ffs that cancellation date is nearly 50 years ago, the fuck are you shocked it doesn't meet modern standards you decrept old bastard
Harmless to whom?
White people.
1978! Wtf?
Yes, you think this was some piece of ancient history and it really wasn't. I don't think I ever saw it as my folks wouldn't allow it and my Dad's parents would have got a flea in their ear if it was on when we were round but they enjoyed The Good Old Days and The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club, which also invoked the old variety show or working men's club spirit.
Wait until you find out that Butlins was still running the stage show in 1989.
Hi-de-hi campers!
Hi-de-hi, racists!
Britain didnโt vote to leave the EU for the Black And White Minstrel Show to stay cancelled
Make telly racist again!
I vaguely remember the black and white minstrels being a thing, but by the time I understood what was really going on it had stopped. I don't remember enjoying it.
So harmless.
Nothing is sacred today.
Being bit overdramatic, arenโt we?
Wouldn't make it onto this community if they weren't.
Any good links to the history of minstrils and the change in cultural acceptance?
Here's an article on the Black and White Minstrel Show.
I'll have a dig around but this is the article on Minstrels from The Oxford Companion to Black British History (2007) which is concise but covers the whole history.
Worth also catching Warwick Davis' episode of How Do You Think You Are? He was delighted to discover he was from a long line of entertainers but horrified to find out some were minstrels. So they gave him a potted history of the tradition.
The US Smithsonian African American History museum has a good exhibit on the topic
https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/blackface-birth-american-stereotype
Jesus christ
I . . . I don't . . . wh- . . . that's. . .
Wow.
this guy's move
Now that's a guy that has seen almost twenty minutes of an episode of Soul Train.
He is the only one you don't get serious "just here for the money" vibes from.
He's a student of "culture"
Granddad, what did during the seventies?
I was a student of culture.
What does that mean?
Nothing racist! Now stop asking questions and finish your rice and peas.