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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I saw this posted elsewhere and the best one I saw was "Buyhard"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Well there it is.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We have one in Finnish "välineurheilija". "Väline" is "sports equipment" and "urheilija" is athlete, so it's literally just "equipmentathlete" and used derogatorily towarsd people who — instead of actually practicing — just show up in very expensive gear.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Has "couch expert"/"couch warrior" vibe.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Those people create the second hand market. Celebrate them.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (13 children)

It's really common advice to not start with the cheapest gear. Yes a lot of us learned to play on dime store guitars but would have suffered less with a quality instrument. The same is true for just about everything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Exactly. I started learning harmonica on those $20 pack of 8 and struggled for weeks to get anything to sound close to what I wanted. When I spent $60 on a decent instrument, I could suddenly do what I'd been practicing. There's a sweet spot for getting good enough equipment to actually learn without blowing the budget on something you may not continue doing

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Right and top end is several hundreds or thousands. So $60 is cheap just not cheapest.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

In skateboarding the term is "poser".

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How about this?

You bought the most expensive gear for a hobby you don't yet know much about? I've met many in this hobby, and have never met anyone this dedicated! Good on you, mate! Can you keep me posted on your progress? I'm genuinely interested! Let me know if you need any help or advice, as I'd be ecstatic to help!

I hate these ~/mike types of gatekeeping bullshitters. People in a hobby being excited about newcomers to the hobby, is the reason we still have hobbies.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I wouldn’t call them names, but there is something to be said about people with $2500 gaming pc who only ever play league of legends or Fortnite

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

If they're playing league or fortnite they're probably already getting called plenty of names.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Hah, the joke is on you as I don’t even play those anymore! My PC has just been gathering dust since my hell raiser spawned last year!!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

There's a trade-off, depending on the hobby, I guess. For some hobbies, very cheap gear won't even work properly. "Buy once, cry once," is something I hear often.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My buddies and I used to go paintballing in the woods near us. We'd throw on layers and grab our basic guns and go have fun. We invited this guy we knew from school, and dude went to the store and bought a paintball carbine, and a Gilly suit and just sat there picking everyone off. We didn't invite him a second time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Too real...I tried getting into paintballing in HS, bought someone's entry level gun but never got a chance to play. About 10 years later, after graduating college and getting a job, a buddy of mine wanted to start playing again so I dug out my old gun, tank and helmet. We played like 3 times 1on1 or 1v2 and each time I started researching better gear. After the 3rd time I finally got a new Azodin Blitz, new electric hopper, upgraded helmet I camo painted, and a new gear box.

We played 1 times after that when he started dating a new girl and he just kinda fell off the face of the earth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

My buddies and I bought guns at Walmart, used them for the summer and returned them within the 90 days. Especially in those days, Walmart used to take everything back

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Victims. Of salespeople.

I love them because I can buy greatly discounted gear after they return it or consign it. And I never see them back where I go, they couldn't make it.

Most hobbies started using what was available. The activity arose from the impetus.

Mountain climbers used sneakers. Gary Fisher used dirtbike parts on his mountain bikes at first.

All the expensive cushions and benches in the world won't meditate for you. Likewise, worshipping a meditator won't help you.

At some point, you have to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Depending on the hobby, this is some fucked up gatekeeping.

My first thought was riding a motorcycle as a hobby, and that is one activity that many people severely underestimate how much expensive gear you should be wearing for your safety before you even consider doing it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Think it's the trap that if you continue with the hobby, all the starter gear is useless and all the money could have been spent on better equipment.

I paint miniatures. Not as often it as much as I would like to because of dividing my time between work, two year old and chores, but I have had the hobby for the last six years. I have yet to purchase an airbrush, and I can get a perfectly decent starter set for lets say 20 USD. But I can also get a better set with high end compressor, better paint gun.for 60 USD. I know that if I keep getting better at using the airbrush I will eventually get the high end stuff, why not "save" money and get it right away.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

"Yuppie" is already a word.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

No we don't, we need less gatekeeping

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (12 children)

I bought the Bambu P1S 3d printer. I've never 3d printed and knew very little except for the dozen or so YouTube videos recommending it and how to use it, learned about filaments and everything else I now know I learned on the way.

I could have gotten one of a dozen <$500 3D printers. But would that just leave me wanting in the future? Will I be stuck with a cheaper tool after learning and experiencing the ceiling of it?

I see this mentality working on people who aren't interested in a hobby enough to justify a large purchase, people just trying out and see if they're interested kinda thing. But what if the subpar gear turns the person off from their poor experience?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the music industry. This is the go to answer for overpriced guitars.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Rich poser back in my day

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I've heard "wallet warrior" been thrown around in gaming communities for people who just pay for high end accounts without having any skill to back it up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Is this for like, someone who buys the biggest social media site for top dollar and then doesn't really know what to do with it ?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Paying for expensive gear at the beginning may not be a bad idea, given the possibility: should you quit the hobby and try to sell your stuff, no one is going to buy your knockoff cheap equipment, while more quality stuff holds its value

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hate the disparaging of gatekeeping as inherently bad. Mountain biking has seen an uptick of people riding electric fat bikes, essentially just dirt bikes. It's bad enough when beginners are using normal bikes to ride in wet muddy conditions on trails that can't handle it or skidding into corners, it does so much more damage when they're tearing up the trail with a heavy motorized bike with wide tires. More gatekeeping would keep the trails in better conditions.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Us guitarists call them blues lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooo I haven't heard of that term. Fun fact I learned a while ago: something like 90% of people that pick up a guitar will quit within the first year. However, those that stick with it will spend on average $10k over their lives on equipment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's actually pretty cheap over a lifetime.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How about "Rich people I'm jealous of?"

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

In cycling we call them dentists.

But if someone is trying out one of my hobbies idgaf what gear they can afford. We all start somewhere.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I usually just refer to them as having "more money than brains"....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

At the gym, I call them "Resolutioners," and they usually only last til February.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Although gatekeeping is a bad attitude, I think the worst part of beginning a hobby is not getting super expensive gear as a beginner, but getting the wrong super expensive gear as a beginner.

As a homebrewer, my super janky setup has barely evolved in the 8 years I've been in the hobby. It's a very hands-on process, hard to control for temps and most of my tools are either upcycled or built from hardware store materials, but I know exactly how it works and can let my imagination run wild when creating recipes. Plus, it's fun to spend an afternoon with friends drinking beer while actually brewing beer. I see a lot of people splurging for a Brewfather and losing interest pretty quickly because everything is automated, so your "hobby" is mainly waiting for a timer to beep, or people "investing" in kits and making barely-better-than-low-end commercial beer.

I'm not really into photography anymore but when I started out, I was shooting film because camera bodies were super cheap back then, people discarded them because they were only interested in the lenses. People were buying 800-1000€ m4/3 cameras in droves and put expensive vintage lenses on them to get that "instagram look", which is useless except for driving up the price of good lenses because the sensor is so small that most of the character of the lens is lost. With a bit of patience, you could snag a full-frame, used Sony a7 for less money and actually getting what you paid for in the lens.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Where I'm from, it's called a showbag because it looks expensive but there's nothing inside. All the gear; no talent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

When I skated we called them posers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Oh that's that new "x"?! Tell me about it?!

Be excited people are joining your hobbies. Without people hobbies die.

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Invited a new guy to MTG Commander night. Showed up with a deck full of expensive cardboard because a deck he found online had all of them. Cool dude and still plays with us with more reasonably priced cardboard now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

IDK. When I pick up a new hobby I try and go mid tier. I'm not going to buy the 1000 dollar gear but also not the 50 dollar gear.

Though I did go and buy a way too expensive camera a few years ago. But it was more a return to a hobby than a new one. Don't regret the purchase, don't plan on upgrading any time soon.

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