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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The internet was literally created by the DoD to have a communication system that was resilient to foreign attacks. If one part of it goes down, it can still work with the parts that aren't down. This is built into the design.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. Usually this claim includes some reference to nuclear war, but the Internet was not designed to withstand attack. Arpanet was not designed with military applications primarily in mind.

https://www.internetmythen.de/en/index0258.html?mythen=myth-15-the-internet-was-invented-by-the-pentagon-and-designed-to-survive-a-nuclear-attack

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Til, thank you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

suuure, they couldn't even take out ukraines communication systems

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cutting a couple undersea fiber cables and completely fucking the whole internet is very easy. Humanity has so far just kinda silently agreed to not fuck with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sure, but welcome to 2024, where we have mirrors and cdns and the cloud with distributed everything.

Not saying disconnecting the americas from eurasia wouldn't be a big deal, but the internet would keep working.

Elon would be very happy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (15 children)

that's basically russia asking to get wiped out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No one takes them seriously, they just bark. Here's a hilarious wiki article on all the red lines Russia set in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Date notified: February 24, 2022

Red line: “Interference” in Ukraine by outside powers

Date broken: February 24, 2022

This one send me flying.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

I find the threat of GPS loss to be hard to believe. Theyd have to take out 38 GPS satelites and presumably any of the other navagation satellites American allies have in orbit, and presumably theyd have to not damage their own navigation satelites in the process. I also doubt they could do that all at the same time, or quick enough that no one could respond. Im sure they have the capability, and im sure they have an idea of what the operation would have to look like but in terms of a plan that's actionable, I have big doubts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that threat.

They know exactly where in the sky they are. They know what frequencies their antennas are tuned to. I'm betting burning out those transceivers would not be an impossible feat.

I also don't know how well they put up against really large lasers

They've also been fully capable of putting s*** into space for years. I would not put it past them to have some form of combination weather/spy satellite and weapons platform out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They must be aware of the concept of re-ta-lia-tion. You shoot down my satellites, I shoot down yours. Nobody wins and we are all back 40 years.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe they could get an compromised/friendly/useful idiot/individual installed in the hightest levels of government who, either intentionally or unintentionally, would funnel secrets to them which help facilitate mass disruption?

ohh wait...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Russia couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The same Russia that "indicated" the Ukraine special operation would take three days?

Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah?

And we'd retaliate. Which is why they haven't done it. They didn't shoot down the satellites in the cold war and they aren't going to do it now unless they've decided the world without satellites is just so much better.

How is this news? China could nuke the West Coast tomorrow and the Canadians might invade Maine to secure a maple syrup monopoly! Actually, that's more likely than anything else in this thread...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Maine should just be part of New Brunswick but your decorators could never match the right shade of pink

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If Canada invades I'm fighting on their side. We suck so much and they're polite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

"We could totally fuck you up if we wanted."

"Go ahead and do it then."

"..."

"I'm waiting."

"...I do not want to."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the Julia Roberts move "Leave the World Behind", they mention a process of destroying a country. (I vaguely recall that the process was attributed to a real person.) One of the steps was to take down the internet. With lack of information chaos develops, and the country destroys itself.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Not really. We had a country before the internet, we'd just fall back on that. It would be painful but very doable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, this is really like a tiny dog barking its head off, because it's convinced it can't be harmed.
Russia and Putin have been embarrassing themselves for a while now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Russia said they'd take over Ukraine in three days.

Russia says a lot of shit.

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