Well I started on kbin.social, migrated to kbin.run…
Are there any other servers anyone would like me to ruin?
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2024
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How do you feel about stomaching 4chan for a few weeks?
lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, truthsocial.com, x.com, etc
You could try fedia.io if you prefer the Kbin/Mbin interface over Lemmy
Well, it could be you, or it could be me, as I've hit the same waypoints.
fedia.io wasn't taking sign-ups at the time I went to kbin.run, but they are right now, so that's where I've ended up this time.
If this one dies too, I guess I'll take the jinx with me back to Reddit and see what happens there.
fedia.io , its an mbin which is a branch from kbin
Kbin.run was running mbin too
Yea in fact kbin.run was run by debounced. A very beloved mbin maintainer, if I say so myself.
I've had the same path; started out on .social, then moved to .run. Now I'm on fedia.io wondering when I'll have to scout out a fourth.
I highly doubt that Jerry will let you down 😁
8chan/8kun or whatever it‘s calling itself this year
I mean I am running thebrainbin.org and gehirneimer.de and they will not go anywhere, pinky promise
Thank you for the service, good sir.
Where you also on vlemmy.net and iusearch.fyi?
After I kbin.socials constant issues I moved to Leemy.world and like it a lot better. I miss magazines as opposed to communities, but it's pot-ato po-tato and there don't seem to be any outages.
Yikes. Always sad / concerning to see an instance (and its admins) just drop off the map w/o warning.
The GH and Matrix accounts disappearing is also telling. The DNS record for kbin.run is no longer found at all, so that indicates the owner deliberately deleted it rather than just shutting off the servers. Had the Github account remained active, I'd suspect something more benign like issues with their registrar,. But with the GH account deleting too, I'm leaning toward some kind of intentional scuttle (don't want to even speculate on why since there's nowhere near sufficient information to even guess).
Not sure what their Matrix handle/homeserver was, but if they hosted it under the same domain, it would make sense for that to disappear too if there were registrar issues. Again, the GH deletion seems to be the telling factor.
Amusingly, this comment from Elevator7009 one week ago seems to have aged like milk: https://lemmy.world/post/18248042 (LW link since the canonical kbin.run one won't work, obv).
Not only did he deleted the domain (records) and his github account. But also I can't find his sponsor pages anymore on buymeacoffee.com or patreon. Meaning he removed everything.
Yeah, I was a member (the only one?) on patreon and all evidence of my membership has vanished. I'm starting to think that self-hosting might be the only real way forward for stability, but I don't know how to replicate the /all/ experience without a swarm of users and their subscriptions adding to my own.
I would not recommend single user instances in the threadiverse, they just need too many resources just to start out... There are other options available and if you do not trust the people "only" running their servers for 2 years like me and debojnced previously then go to fedia.io their admin has been actively hosting fediverse services for a lot longer
What is your definition of "too many resources"? Because running a Lemmy instance surely takes less server power than something like Mastodon, and you can find managed providers for Lemmy for ~$10/month.
Hell you can self host using yunohost of you want, although its an old version.
It's showing indeed the limitations of the activitypub protocol. I'm promoting decentralization, so feel free to run your own instance. Just know that it will take some time, effort and most likely some money.
matrix was on matrix.org. Though I doubt it is an intentional takeoff I had a conversation with them just yesterday and there weren't any signs of any of that....
Ah, okay. I looked at their profile, but it didn't list a Matrix username (or at least, that didn't federate to me if there was one).
I'm trying very hard not to speculate (and hoping an explanation eventually comes to light), but it's just weird and concerning to see someone (and their instance) just drop off the map like that.
Yeah, though I am rather worrying than speculating tbh. We both worked on mbin and I liked working with them. So I am just super duper confused 😅 And they were active on GitHub in the last days (and yesterday) so yeah... Dunno
It's indeed very sad news. And I'm very sad to see debounced go away like this. I always get along well with him. And I don't know why he's gone so suddenly. 😭
😔
Kbin consumes another admin :/
Getting sus tbh
Yup, just moved from there to fedia now. Kbins spirit affects all
Safe haven on kbin.earth...landed on.the perfect spot. Insignificant but a cozy planet among the fediverse.
Oof. Worst way to go. I mean, doing so for personal accounts is fine but that's a lot of collateral in form of the users there. People always say to spread out over instances, but then shit like this happens. Most users don't want to run from one instance to another because the admins decided to stop (or due to other issues with them).
I guess that explains the 500s here on Fedia?
Ok. I have to ask: how many instances will have to go down before the majority of you drop the "you can always hop around to the next one" mentality and start thinking about ways to make the whole ecosystem more mature and professional?
to make the whole ecosystem more mature and professional?
Feel free to hire the devs?
You can and should fund the developers as much as possible , but I am talking about paying for the work done by the instance admins and moderators.
Oh fair point.
Feel free to hire the admins then!
~~Wait, that might have come out wrong...~~
I am one of the admins. Should I hire myself?
Pros: you get to be your own boss.
Cons: you get to be your own employee.
Well damn, another kbin is down.
Oh, I created an account there two days ago.
I had just remembered my .run account like a week ago after instance hopping. I had set it up last year in-case blahaj lemmy imploded.
@[email protected] A sad thing is, that even if MBin had account migration implemented, it wouldn't really help, as it just got down without a notice or a warning
Oh indeed
So I have backup accounts on fedia.io and piefed.social
But when I left spez's site for the fediverse, I recreated some lost content (while it was still fresh in my head) and added a bunch of new content to kbin.social - AFAIK with ernest MIA and no way to reach an actual admin of kbin.social my new content is now gone.
That was a very discouraging experience. Since then I decided I wouldn't return until I could set up my own single-user instance - as owning and controlling my own instance largely means I always have a copy of my content, no matter what happens elsewhere.
I wish piefed.social (which only fully opened this year in Jan IIRC) had been around earlier. The lead developer of piefed is really helpful and responsive, and created a lot of documentation on how to run your own instance of pyfedi - including how to set up your own at-home instance via something like ngrok. Basically you get a HOWTO guide on how to do this. Compare with the complexity of getting a Kbin instance up and running in the early days...
Piefed is great indeed
What is the name knbin?