Announcement post here: https://discuit.substack.com/p/df5f002f-e27a-46a6-b30d-7641b266bd65
For those unfamiliar, Discuit is another Reddit alternative that's been floating around for a while. I was unable to find a MAU count, but I am honestly more interested in their software than their communities. Particularly curious what you all think of this stack. A consistent complaint around Lemmy is that a Rust backend makes contribution difficult, will a Go backend contribute to a lower overall barrier of entry?
Hey there! Figured I'd share here since my main instance, Lemmy.ml, seems to be really broken right now. I published an article today focusing on some of the myths and misconceptions Mastodon users have spread over the last few years, with some critical analysis and debunking.
Let me know if you like it!
I'm talking about what they say at 8:20:
Bulletin boards, forums, blogs. The main difference to today was twofold:
For one there were no algorithms fighting to keep you online at any cost – at some point you were done with the internet for the day, as mind blowing as this may sound.
But more importantly: The old internet was very fractured, split into thousands of different communities, like small villages gathering around shared beliefs and interests.
These villages were separated from each other by digital rivers or mountains. These communities worked because they mirrored real life much more than social media:
Each village had its own culture and set of rules. Maybe one community was into rough humour and soft moderation, another had strict rules and banned easily.
If you didn’t play by the village rules, you would be banned – or you could just go and move to another village that suited you better.
So instead of all of us gathering in one place, overwhelming our brains at a townsquare that in the end just leads to us going insane, one solution to achieve less social sorting may be extremely simple:
go back to smaller online communities.
cross-posted from: https://communick.news/post/419975
When building out the database of recommended Lemmy communities, I think it makes the most sense to prioritize the communities that belong to instances focused on a specific topic over communities that are based in a "general" instance, even if currently the community is smaller in the topic-specific instance.
For example, for an user coming from reddit and signing up via a "fediversed" instance (like alien.top) it would make more sense if they see that the anime subreddits are on ani.social, the rpg/board games are on ttrpg.network, the programming communities are on programming.dev, the basketball ones are on nba.space, the NSFW communities are on lemmynsfw, etc, etc...
This will also avoid the issue that I am currently seeing where some communities have multiple entries in the recommended database due to the initial migration where each user was just trying to replicate their favorite subreddits in their own server they signed up for.
Let me start by thanking everyone that has joined https://fediverser.network and the ones who are already helping to categorize and create a map between subreddits and the recommended Lemmy alternatives. Y'all are amazing and I hope we can keep it up.
To keep in mind that the main goal of this whole project is to help people on reddit to migrate quickly and effortlessly to Lemmy, I was thinking on what could be done once we have the majority of the niche subreddits mapped out. I thought about the idea of creating "Community Ambassadors", which would be basically people interested in "turning" other redditors from their specific communities to Lemmy.
Basically that would require you to signup to Fediverser to indicate what community you are focusing on and how many people you are willing to reach out per day. The system could then collect the top posts of that subreddit every day and let you trigger a (custom, personalized) DM to the people telling them about the alternative Lemmy community that exists with a link to alien.top's portal to make one-click migration.
If a human posted every 5 min, got 0 upvotes for 20 posts straight, we would ban them for spam. If bots would limit themselves to posting once a day, or once a week, and only post the top-voted non-duplicate post of that timeframe, it would be a dramatic improvement. For once, we might actually see real-lemmy posts along side bot posts, instead of the community being exclusively bots (or 99% bot posts) or exclusively Lemmy users.
I would tell the bot creators myself, except I don't know how to get in contact with them. Is there a consistent way to contact a bot creator?
I like Lemmy. Active development, lots of third party apps, active community, etc but what other Fediverse projects are worth getting into like this one?
For microblogging (Twitter), I know Mastodon is really popular but there are so many other microblogging options like Pleroma, Misskey, FireFish, etc that I don't know which one is really worth getting into (as a user, dev, or admin). Are any of these on par with Lemmy?
For video, there's PeerTube. The content isn't great at all and most servers struggle to pay bills. I think the YouTube replacement is a looong way to go.
I think it's a cool idea, and it could be the best way to help users on Reddit learn about Lemmy and migrate over.
I have some concerns though
What I like:
If you go to communities like [email protected], you can see what I mean. Lemmy commenters are generally more helpful, more detailed, and get to the posts a lot faster than Reddit users.
If I understand correctly, once the network is implemented:
- Reddit user signs up on Fediverser
- Reddit user posts on a subreddit that has a Lemmy equivalent
- Post is crossposted to Lemmy
- When a Lemmy user replies to the post, that comment is reposted by a bot on Reddit
Users on the Reddit post will:
- learn about Lemmy
- see the good quality reply (if the reply is good, Reddit mods won't ban the bot)
- get a direct link to a community/instance relevant to them
Users in the Lemmy community will
- get more content from people that are already curious about Lemmy
That would be really cool!
Right now, the network isn't fully implemented. Instead, in communities like [email protected], there is a flood of ALL content that is posted in the respective subreddit.
This is bad because:
- Lemmy users don't know that no human will see their replies, and the helpful Lemmy users are just talking to a wall. This will make them... less helpful in the future
- Because ALL content is being mirrored, this spams out the actual Lemmy posts
- Reddit users have no idea, and no control, over whether their posts are mirrored. I only noticed on the datahoarder community, but there are more sensitive subreddits where I would want control over where it is posted. I would also need a way to delete the content from Lemmy, and right now the users can't do that.
- Don't mirror all content, only the stuff from Reddit users that sign up. There is already an incentive for signing up (more replies, better replies, better reach). If a user doesn't sign up, their post will not be mirrored, and they will not get the benefit.
- If two communities WANT full mirroring, let them decide and have them contact directly (ex. from Modmail). Encourage them to talk to their communities before deciding
- Any automated post NEEDS a note saying so
- Posts to Lemmy should have a link to the Reddit user, the Reddit post, and an "about" page for Fediverser
- Comments to Reddit should have a link to the Lemmy comment, an "about" page for Fediverser, and a link to some "what is lemmy"/"new to lemmy" article.
- If it's not being implemented like the above, maybe change it up to consider the points about user control
As it is, reposting everything is damaging to Lemmy and potentially harmful to Reddit users that don't know their stuff is being mirrored.
Sometimes it feels like the about pages/sidebars across the fediverse are underappreciated to the point of being underused, so I thought it might be nice to see what some most appreciate in those abouts/sidebars that are used.
For me personally? If it's something kind of niche or obscure, or even something basic but kinda ambiguous, I dig a concise little description like "[blank] is a [genre/type] [band/game/tv show/etc.], [additional relevant info]".
Although if it catches my interest enough I will just post and ask because how else might I figure out the secret arcana of the Deep Hobbies?
Is smth up? They both have decent uptimes?
The original projects meant to help finding out the Lemmy communities sub.rehab and redditmigration were not really kept up-to-date after the first wave of protests. To avoid bitrot and to make sure that the community can help keep this up to date, I'm launching today fediverser.network.
At the moment, it is a simple browser of subreddits and lists of recommended alternatives. It can also let users sign-in with their reddit credentials so that they can get a list of the mapped communities specific to their subscriptions.
There is a lot more to be done, as I want to use this tool to help me map out all the niche communities that are missing on Lemmy and eventually have a 1:1 map for those that want to leave reddit entirely.
It kind of makes me think of how odd it would have been if many of the old forums named themselves like bookclub.phpbulletin.com, metalheads.vbulletin.net, or something.
There's nothing wrong with doing that, obviously, but it's struck me as another interesting quirk of fediverse instances/sites. Generally as soon as you visit them you can tell by the site interface or an icon somewhere what software they're using.
I have just deployed a script and a mastodon bot which attempt to hashtag lemmy posts so that they are better discoverable in microblogging services.
Please check the README for the why and the how.
If you have a microblogging account, please consider following the bot account which will help its hashtags federate to your instance's public timeline.
Many thanks to @[email protected] for hosting the bot.
PS: If you have a mastodon account, you can reply to your posts on mastodon (just search for their url) and add hashtags to your replies. This will achieve a quick and dirty version of what this bot is doing
I was SOOOO WAITING for the Fediverse name drop considering how MUCH they were implying this at the end of the video.
I would enjoy to make an account on Misskey ^w^ I have Mastodon but I want to get MissKey for more friends!! Althought I have seen that there aren't a lot of MissKey clients on the Google Play Store, and there are none on F-Droid... Thank you!!
I’m learning web development. I’m on databases at the moment, postgresql in particular. I thought it might be fun to try to help with a fediverse project or two, but I’m only knowledgeable about node.js, and npm, do any fediverse projects use that? I also may be diving too deep too early with this. Appreciate any feedback you guys have!
- https://lemmy.world/u/[email protected] - 99 Posts 308 Comments
- https://futurology.today/u/[email protected] - 0 Posts 10 Comments
Futurology.today blocks fewer instances (and is blocked by fewer) than lemmy.world https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances so it can't be that.
I tried to search this community before posting and when I go to https://futurology.today/c/[email protected] then click the search icon in the top right, it loads a search page https://futurology.today/search that is searching the whole fediverse.
So I click on "community -> all" and type in "fediverse" then click on this community, and it takes me to https://futurology.today/search?type=All&listingType=All&communityId=70&page=1&sort=TopAll. I see "&communityId=70" in the URL but the page still says it's searching the whole fediverse.
Are either of these bugs that I should report on github?
If I do a search from https://futurology.today/search?type=All&listingType=All&communityId=70&page=1&sort=TopAll it does only search this community. But if I use the first link it doesn't.
Lemmy.ml was the first but what was the second
Is there such a thing as shadow banning submissions, comments, or users on Lemmy?
I'm having trouble seeing a couple of comments that I know were there at some points, one of them is my own and I haven't deleted it. So it got me wondering, is shadow banning a thing here.
Hi everybody! I rent a vps with 6 cores, 16 GB ram and 100 GB nvme to run fediverse instances (mastodon, lemmy, matrix, peertube) and a couple related services (nginx proxy manager, nodebb forum, wiki.js, uptime kuma, portainer, tig-stack).
Over the past month they have been running. It has been some work to set them up but since then they run pretty flawlessly. My main goal was to find out how much hardware I really need to run private instances (just me or maybe a handful of friends).
Here are the stats:
Disclaimer: I checked and all services federate correctly.
From my point of view, the 6 cores are totally overkill. A two core would probably suffice. Of the 16 GB of ram I currently need 4. So 8 should suffice. The 100 GB nvme drive is barely handling it (66% full) and thats without backups (they get pulled immediately and then deleted) and with a 48 hour media delete cycle on mastodon (which currently is the largest folder I have).
Individual Space usage (nvme)
- 8.0K heimdall
- 2.0G lemmy
- 7.1G mastodon
- 5.2G matrix
- 123M nodebb
- 236M npm
- 3.5G peertube
- 12K pgadmin
- 8.0K portainer
- 376K tig-stack
- 8.0K uptime-kuma
- 8.0K watchtower
- 12K wiki.js
- 3.6G wordpress
So while I use lemmy the most, mastodon uses far more disk space, matrix also uses more than lemmy although I'm in like 20 chats and my friends don't use matrix except to chat with one another. I have subscribed to maybe 50 communities on lemmy.
Since the graphs in the screenshots lack legends, I'll explain the spikes.
Container CPU usage
- red spike: lemmy postgres
- lightblue: mastodon sidekiq
- yellow: telegraf
- dark-blue: lemmy ui
Container Ram usage
- red line: peertube
- light-blue: mastodon sidekiq
- dark-red: lemmy postgres
- pink: mastodon postgres
So far I didn't actively try to get the needed resources down except mastodon since I didnt want it to derail my experiment.
Mastodon seems to have the worst data on drive footprint, Peertube seems like a constant ram hog and lemmy spikes in the cpu all the time. So they all have their positives and negatives but nothing major. If you have 2 cores, at least 6 GB of ram and probably 250 GB of disk space to spare you should be good.
I'll work on making the compose files and config files publicly available but right now I'm not there. If you need help spinning up an instance, please let me know. I can send you individual files if needed.
Have a good one! :)
I've been using Lemmy for a couple years now, and unfortunately I've noticed a significant decline in the niche communities that were originally active. When I first joined I saw much more variety when browsing the All feed. But over time, the communities I liked have faded as shitposting and meme communities have come to dominate the platform.
I think this shift has changed the culture of Lemmy. There seems to be more of a herd mentality now, where people downvote reasonable opinions they disagree with. The discussions don't feel as nuanced. Some people have even been attacked for innocuous comments that don't align with the prevailing groupthink.
The niche communities that made Lemmy special are fading away, and the resulting monoculture makes me less inclined to participate. I want a platform that supports substantive discussions in my interests, not just memes and shitposting.
I don't know what the solution is on a platform level, but a culture shift is needed if Lemmy wants to retain users like me who valued the diversity of opinions. I may have to move to a platform that allows better filtering and proportionality between niche interests and funny or stupid content. I want Lemmy to succeed, but right now I'm finding myself drawn back to Reddit because the niche communities there seem more active. I'll keep checking in, but Lemmy needs to recapture its original spirit if I'm going to make it my main home.
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!
If you want help with making a lemmy bot, then head over to [email protected]!
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.