Yeah 👍

oh ok. Thanks :)

Thanks for the explanation. Didn't realize Bluesky/AT is more like a fedi-washed version of ActivityPub rather than a real alternative ...

I'm not sure; on the one hand, I think the fact that federation has become a unique selling point in micro-blogging is indicating a positive trend; so even if people join Bluesky its good for the Fediverse. On the other hand, if federated just becomes another buzz word that means nothing at all, while places where the real innovation is happening are drowned out, the window of opportunity could just close.

I think its a cool idea. I had a similar idea once: https://fungiverse.wordpress.com/2024/07/27/floo-network-anouncement/ but for the whole social web instead of just Lemmy.

Its interesting, it could get overwhelming easily though. Maybe this could be solved by only showing instances of a certain size?

Even if it doesnt have much impact on activitypub-fedi, I think this is good news for the fediverse in general. X is loosing more and more relevancy and microblogging is more and more happening on federating services.

You can already see how Meta will also use imagery to establish its centre-position in the Fediverse with its symbol for the Fediverse (it has a centre):

(from https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/112139602260820054)

It’s fine if single instances do consent-based federation that prioritize safety over openess, but why should it become the default for all instances? It will result in instance protectionism and an overall decline in discussion quality. Making it opt-in means people will connect less likely with folks from other instances, meaning people will mainly stay on their instances, meaning it supports tribalism in the Fediverse. More safety usually comes at a cost, too. In this case: less interaction with other instances.

But if you federate with instances that you trust good enough in the first place, constent-based federation is not necessary imo.

I have to switch between subscribed/local/all feed all the time. That's why I proposed a mixed-feed, which merges Subscribed/Local/All feed according to users settings so you don't have to switch all the time.

I already created an issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2137

Just looked up what FANG means - what the hell does Netflix in there? Seriously Netflix doesn't do shit. Typical case of forced acronyms ;)

Without the fediverse a viable non-surveilled internet might not be able to exist.

I would agree. Mastodon made search opt-in. There will always be communities and users that refuse to be searchable and that should be fine.

Remember, there’s no revenue to compete over here. Analyses that depend on standard capitalist competition should be expected to not only be inaccurate here, but incoherent. They simply don’t describe the actual incentives for people’s behavior.

Maybe, but its just a model. You need to be more specific. I want at least a counter-example ;)

From a game theory perspective: You have no reason to believe that this specific payoff matrix actually describes the situation here. There are lots of other games besides the Prisoners Dilemma. Are you really sure you’re not looking at a Stag Hunt, or a Battle of the Sexes (terrible name, but that’s what the papers call it)?

Oh, I think you are right. Stag Hunt does fit better ... But I think it doesn't change anything about the overall argumentation (I think I actually accidentally used the numbers of stag hunt in the picture)

I think this is also heavily related to the CSAM issue, because

A.) Its horrible to read about in the first place B.) Its makes users more reluctant to browse content in general C.) It makes users more reluctant to browse content at work or in public places

I think that scared off many users (it also scared me off a bit). I think if Lemmy finds a solution to fight this kind of stuff and gives users some reassurance that the problem is handled will bring many users back. I think the importance of content moderation and SPAM defense should be the biggest learning points of the first Lemmy loop.

Thanks! I did that also because sometimes these technicalities change (at least the not underlying ones). For example in many graphics you have still Twitter but its now X.