this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2024
580 points (94.2% liked)

politics

19120 readers
2932 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 212 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That article is about leaving the White House.

Heres an article about the Macon speech where he suggested seemingly jokingly that he'd leave the country. https://www.axios.com/2020/10/17/trump-rally-leave-us-biden-win

This time though, he's fear mongering, but at the same time showing that he's a coward who is not ready to stay and fight. He's no Alexei Navalny, that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, that's what I meant, lol. Thanks for the clarification.

I had that one originally but figured the Reuters one would be more accessible (but failed to read through the Reuters one to confirm it was talking about the same "leave". 🤦🏻‍♂️)

Updated the link in my earlier comment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

But he didn’t lose, remember? He’s still here trying to fight the good fight!

(I need to go wash my phone after typing that…)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 192 points 3 months ago (5 children)

that make him a flight risk. one of these judges on the criminal case should take his passports and impound his jets

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I doubt the Secret Service would let him leave, and Trump likely still has some form of diplomatic passport, which would be extremely difficult for a judge to simply take away.

However, you can bet that his comments will be a factor in next month's sentencing, and maybe tip the scales toward jail time. The most likely sentence is probation, but if he is openly saying he's gonna skip the country, that may cause the judge to doubt whether Trump will make it to all of his meetings with his probation officer.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Remember this?

Joe Biden is expected to receive Secret Service protection with a new team that is more familiar to him and replacing some agents amid concerns that they may be politically allied with Donald Trump.

Or this?

"The Department notified us that many U.S. Secret Service (USSS) text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program," Inspector General Joseph Cuffari wrote to top members of congressional Homeland Security committees. "The USSS erased those messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of the events at the Capitol on January 6."

Agents assigned to Biden were replaced because of questionable loyalty and the USSS actually destroyed evidence after the OIG requested the records for their Jan-6 investigation. It appears that MAGA has penetrated frighteningly far into the Secret Service. What do you think the odds are that any of agents assigned to protect Trump aren't absolute MAGA zealots?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt the Secret Service would let him leave

I don't know where that shit comes from.

SS doesn't have a say in shit. They can recommend things and most rational people would go along with it, but an ex president can do whatever they want and the SS has to follow along.

trump could get on a private plane, refuse to let SS on, and just fly to Russia. Hell, he can let them on and still do it. It's not like SS is going to take over a fucking plane.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or as the officials like to call it....Flight to Avoid Prosecution

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (5 children)

He does have a sentencing hearing coming up next month, and saying shit like this is exactly what you say when you want the judge to throw the book at you and make sure you do some jail time.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (11 children)

So do you think he'll go to Russia or Saudi Arabia?

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

As much as I would love for this to happen, this writer is fabricating what Trump said.

Most of the context is left out but the clips starts with how crime rates around the world are dropping. He's saying it would be far safer to meet in Venezuela because the US would be a horror show if Kamala wins the election.

In this short clip, he's commenting about crime in the US compared to Venezuela.

Nothing about him "fleeing the country" because he loses the election.

Edit:
We have a former president verifiably lying practically every time he opens his mouth while his followers continue to trust him over all else. Meanwhile, we have the vast majority of the public accepting misleading click/rage-bait headlines as facts because it makes them feel a certain way. In both accounts, false or misleading information is spread within the group to enforce an idea not based in reality.
It's the pot calling the kettle black.
Trump is a brand. He profits by keeping people engaged - exactly as today's media does. Please, dear world, read more than a headline before you promote content. Always question the validity of a story even when, especially when, it seems too good to be true.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Yes, he would meet in Venezuela because Harris will ruin the United States, definitely not because he will end up in jail in the U.S. if he doesn't control the Department of Justice. Totally not because Venezuela regularly refuses extradition requests.

You're totally right, he definitely didn't say he would specifically flee the country because he lost the election and would be in legal jeopardy.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

...I can't even say that sarcastically without throwing up in my mouth a little.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago

Felons have been known to flee.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If he is an admitted flight risk, he should be held in custody until his federal criminal cases are fully adjudicated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

The famous phrase.... it could be argued

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Another great reason to vote Harris.

(I don't believe him anyway, he said if he lost to Joe you'd never "hear from him again" and yet here we are...nobody holds this asshole to any of his statements.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

You're talking about people with Olympic level mental gymnastics, tRump didn't lose the election it was sToLeN!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think that if he wants to stay out of prison he might have to.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He thinks he's going to hide in another country... With secret service detail that every ex-president has.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago

threaten us with a good time

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago

I was already voting for Harris, you don’t have to sell me on it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean you u could do that now bruh

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's what he said last time too.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

He's a convicted felon. He can leave once he's served his time. I'd actually encourage it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't he say this before Biden won?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don’t make me vote harder Donny.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

"Strong man says he will give up and run away if forced to face failure."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

FLIGHT RISK

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was shocked he didn't flee the country the moment he ceased to be President

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Please win, Kamala! Please!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

He promised it last time

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I just had a seizure ~~reading~~ trying to read this "article". what do I even click to escape??

full page of ads and cookie selection

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

If trump was half as smart as his most intelligent supporter, he would flee now before the traitor© branding sticks to him and he takes a long fall on a short rope.

He isn't.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In certain areas you could just play that quote as a Harris Walz campaign ad tbh.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

"If Crazy Kamala wins, I'll leave America for good!"

"I'm Kamala Harris and I approve this message"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Bye Felicia

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He said the same thing last time

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

As if I wasn't already highly motivated this year. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I predict that in under 4 years, he'll have run to Russia for sanctuary, where he'll tweet for the rest of his days. He'll make some kind of comparison between himself and Snowden. The media will start to report less and less on what he says, and people will pay less and less attention to him as he is no longer able to do rallies.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Lmao he's gonna run away from home like a 6 year old.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Extradition treaty

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Because his buddy Maduro just pulled off what Trump wishes he could, a coup backed by the military, going against the voice of the people. The cherry on top being extradition treaty as OP mentioned.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›