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    CrowdStrike effectively bricked windows, Mac and Linux today.

    Windows machines won’t boot, and Mac and Linux work is abandoned because all their users are on twitter making memes.

    Incredible work.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Come on, it was right in their name. CrowdStrike. They were threatening us all this time.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    We formed a crowd, then BAM, they striked.

    We should have seen this coming!!!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I wish my Windows work machine wouldn’t boot. Everything worked fine for us. :-(

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Could be worse. I was the only member of my entire team who didn't get stuck in a boot loop, meaning I had to do their work as well as my own... Can't even blame being on Linux as my work computer is Windows 11, I got 'lucky'; I just got a couple of BSODs and the system restarted just fine.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Funny, mine did a couple BSODs then restarted just fine, at first. Then a fist shaped hole appeared in the monitor and it wouldn't turn on again.

    Weird bug.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Lol why is it always the monitor to get beat. It only has one job, just to show you what the computer is outputting lol

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    why is it always the monitor to get beat

    Because it's within arm's reach and the developers aren't.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine this happening during open heart surgery and all the monitors go blue!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Good lord I would hope critical surgical computers like that aren't networked externally... Somehow I'm guessing I'm wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    Maybe not everywhere, but all of ours are air gapped.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Anecdotal, but my spouse was in surgery during the outage and it went fine, so I imagine they take precautions (like probably having a test machine for updates before they install anything on the real one, maybe)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    There were no test rings for this one and it wasn't a user controlled update. It was pushed by CS in a way that couldn't be intercepted/tested/vetted by the consumer unless your device either doesn't have CS installed or isn't on an external network.. or I suppose you could block CS connections at the firewall. 🤷‍♂️

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

    on twitter?!?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    ~~cloudstrike~~ crowdstrike should be sued into hell

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Counter Stri... no not that.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    "the bomb has been planted" - the intern that pushed the update at crowd strike or whatever

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    well maybe letting them pay compensation to all(!) victims (not just their customers) for all losses including lost time already would solve that problem.

    that would leave the decades-long unsolved problem of microsoft not beeing held liable for their buggy products (which is the reason for all security-products-as-a-workaround-to-compensate-that-crappy-os companies existance) open.

    why not in general hold companies liable for the damage they cause so they CAN develop beeing more cautious with what they do? i mean not ONLY cs should be sued to hell, but ALL of them should be sued until they are reasonable cautious with all possible damages they can cause (and already did in the past)

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    As a career QA, i just do not understand how this got through? Do they not use their own software? Do they not have a UAT program?

    Heads will roll for this

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night. And when you strike fall like a thunderbolt.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    Lol, they only bricked specific machines running their product. Everyone else was fine.

    This was a business problem, not a user problem.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Is there a good eli5 on what crowdstrike is, why it is so massively used, why it seems to be so heavily associated with Microsoft and what the hell happened?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Gonna try my best here:

    Crowdstrike is an anti-virus program that everyone in the corporate world uses for their windows machines. They released a update that made the program fail badly enough that windows crashes. When it crashes like this, it tries to restart in case it fixes the issue, but here it doesn't, and computers get stuck in a loop of restarting.

    Because anti-virus programs are there to prevent bad things from happening, you can't just automatically disable the program when it crashes. This means a lot of computers cannot start properly, which means you also cannot tell the computers to fix the problem remotely like you usually would.

    The end result is a bunch of low level techs are spending their weekends manually going to each computer individually, and swapping out the bad update file so the computer can boot. It's a massive failure on crowdstrikes part, and a good reason you shouldn't outsource all your IT like people have been doing.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

    It's also a strong indicator that companies are not doing enough to protect their own infrastructure. Production servers shouldn't have third party software that auto-updates without going through a test environment. It's one thing to push emergency updates if there is a timely concern or vulnerability, but routine maintenance should go through testing before being promoted to prod.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Crowdstrike is a cybersecurity company that makes security software for Windows. It apparently operates at the kernel-level, so it's running in the critical path of the OS. So if their software crashes, it takes Windows down with it.

    This is very popular software. Many large entities including fortune 500 companies, transport authorities, hospitals etc. use this software.

    They pushed a bad update which caused their software to crash, which took Windows down with it on an extremely large number of machines worldwide.

    Hilariously bad.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    So, do all windows machines use this, or do you have to add this software?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    It's separate software; CrowdStrike is independent from Microsoft and it isn't a default component of Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    It’s interesting that Microsoft is getting a lot of flack from this.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this isn't really the fault of windows.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Windows normalized running third party software as kernel level code.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Third parties love their trojans just being treated as normal way of life.

    "Anti-cheats" instead of not being imbeciles while designing protocols for multiplayer, "anti-viruses" which need to run kernel-level and download databases with executable code, video drivers which just can't be packaged with Windows.

    One thing I've realized is that large parts of social structure are dependent on cheating. We all want to cheat, so we all agree to a system where cheating is possible, but pretend it's not happening until someone gets caught and then just behave as if nothing happened.

    One necessary part of someone's upbringing is honesty. There's an amazingly deep moment in LOTR where Eomer says that Rohirrim don't lie, so they are not easily deceived.

    This is not a poetic device. This is how it works. Ponzi schemes usually target people who think they are smarter and more cunning and will gain something from them. And rigged security systems work because most of participants think they are the ones who may at some point abuse those systems, but most of them are the ones becoming eventually victims of such abuse.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I think it's much simpler: people don't know what they're doing, while CEOs want to make more money so don't do appropriate (expensive) practices.

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    This is very popular software.

    if that's a "good" argument for you, then i've already heared that, and it nearly never really fits. here is another one for you that is an argument as generic as yours: "maybe try eating poo, trillions of flies cannot be wrong, poo is VERY popular food, much more popular than any human food !!! (as in mass per day as well as in its number of consumers)"

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I wasn't making a case for adopting this software. Just pointing out that it is widely used, which is why it had such a wide effect.

    I think you'll find most corporations would jump off a bridge if they saw their competitors jump.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    so i misunderstood. sry then.

    and yes, every company running an alltime-ever-in-news-due-to-critical-exploitable-bugs-in-the-mailclient already IS in freefall after that said jump.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    What's the criteria for a Windows machine to be affected? I use Windows but haven't had any issues today.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    This is specifically caused by an update for CrowdStrike's Falcon antivirus software, which is designed for large organizations. This won't affect personal computers unless they've specifically chosen to install Falcon.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    be a windows based machine protected by crowdstrike as a security service, and received said botched update

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    protected

    Um, about that...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    i means cops exist to protect and serve, whether they actually do that is a different story

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Hey! Its VERY secure, nobody can get into it!

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    yes it protected - by accident - the servers from booting into malware 😁

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Oh so its not windows only

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

    The joke is Mac and Linux users, who aren't actually effected, are incapacitated due to being busy gloating on social media.

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