Static, low-js, HTML tags used-as-intended, some basic CSS for formatting, responsivity and dark/light. Modern-looking accessible webpage from scratch done in half a day.
Btw, https://github.com/lyoshenka/awesome-motherfucking-website
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The irony of some dude trying to prove a point that a website doesn't need to be bloated and burdened with all the design and fancy scripts, just for other people to incrementally built on top of that idea, one-upping each other in the process, mimicking the exact evolution of the modern bloated website as we know it.
From one of them:
"You're a fucking moron if you use default browser styles."
Or just change your browser settings (they shouldn't be ugly by default).
You have a problem with Mosaic Gray?
Honestly I hate the fact that browsers' default CSS exists. The person doing the frontend should have to specify their "default" CSS before the website even loads. I say this as both a user and a programmer, the same website shouldn't look different or break on different browsers unintentionally due to the browser's CSS, and I as a developer shouldn't have to rely on reset sheets to try to patch that.
Everything would be better if it were swapped around, instead of picking out a reset sheet for a site you pick out a default style...
The world would also be better if browsers rendered pugjs/slim and scss/sass and those were the default rather than html and css but I digress...
If we assume "half a day" is 4 hours, and 500 pounds. That's 125 pounds per hour. Which isn't the worst rate. Assuming it's actually capped at 4 hours and we all know that if it's your dad's friend, this is not going to be a set and forget kind of thing. So that 4 hours quickly becomes 10. And suddenly you're down to 50 pounds per hour. And then if it's actually static and simple and good, you still have high odds of getting insane feedback demanding changes to make it worse. A motherfucking website would actually be the best option, but wouldn't get you paid. At that point youre just doing it for the lols.
But ultimately, this isn't even about the rate or how much time this will take. this whole scenario depends heavily on the son here. Is the son unemployed and living in dad's basement for free? Then yeah. Sorry, he should probably take any work he can get for any rate he can get. His dad gets a lot more say in how things work financially if the son is relying on him financially. But if the son is already working a full time job and living in his own house? Then no, I don't care what the rate is. Don't commandeer other people's time. Don't make deals that people haven't agreed to. Come to me with opportunities, not demands.
Yeah, sorry, i couldn't resist to hint on how ridicolously overengineered most professional webpages are.
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell
You're not wrong, but a lot of time those webpages aren't overengineered because the developer wanted it to be, but because the client kept making more and more demands.
That's either a professional level dad joke, or holy wow, does he not know how much you make?
That said, I'll build anyone a website for £500, no matter how large. But that's the base model. It'll be a template taken from a catalog, and Hugo. My maintenance fees are only £250 per hour.
It's a pretty good racket. My friends boss saw us building ourselves a site one time when he let us use his shop on the weekend and he got intrigued.
So as payment for letting us use the machine shop we took over his business website from some expensive marketing company that charged a ton we got him down to a domain and a basic weebly plan. We took photos of the shop and just used their shop colors for the text and slapped on all the contact info he wanted.
Then his bookkeeper saw his site and wanted one so we did the same for her, then her son saw the site and wanted one for his friend who's a plumber. Next thing you know we are turning down jobs because everyone and their mother wants a $500 website from us haha. It became a better business than what we borrowed the machine shop for to begin with
Very nice. I don't think there's anything better than being your own boss.
I'll build anyone a website. I'll do it for 450.
No refunds, though. (don't tell them this, but they won't be very happy with the product.)
It's one website. How much could it cost, £500?
What website weighs 500 pounds?!
Maybe it had too many cookies.
Damn, now it is bloated
Probably a local gym.
The most important thing is what you'll get. A few static pages and stock images with the watermark still present, sure. Beyond that the meter starts running.
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Do you guys have any idea how expensive a website is with a Large Screen size?
goes to website on 47in TV
The price of development is insane
Plugs in HTC Vive and uses WLX-overlay to enlarge the website to 100m virtually.
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5000 pages, including e-commerce integration and bespoke search. £500!
I don't know some of those words, probably ought to say it's 600 dollary-doos
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It's fine. It's just 25 pages, but they want 20 unique designs since those are all primary/landing pages. All on a normal sized screen.
And it must work on mobile.
Yeah but how many normal-sized screens do you want it displayed on? Everyone has one these days. That soon adds up.
I mean, if it's **just ** a normal screen-sized website, that already makes it a lot easier. Not having to deal with responsiveness bullshit would make webdev a lot better experience. That is assuming "normal screen" means 1920*1080, or whatever is the median screen size.
To be fair, using flex box (which is the default in many modern framework) would make responsiveness a breeze these days.
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It only needs to look good on whatever screen size the client's CEO's favorite administrative director uses, when she checks on it, on a Friday evening, seven weeks after delivery (but still well before I'll ever see my $500.00...)
Wish me luck guessing the screen size...
Just make it mobile first... and last ;)
Well he did just say designing, so lucky there. I'll send over some wireframes, sure
My dad does this, and I made a few bucks thanks to WordPress. Really, more thanks to Elementor because you can make a pretty snazzy website for cheap and the layman has no it took 2 hours to put together with templates. Lol
500 per pixel is my rate
500$/hour is so good tho?? smh
The implementation itself? Plausible.
The requirements gathering? Gonna be way more than an hour.
Dad who? Never heard of him. Wrong number
Found the fatherless!
"Works best on Internet Explorer at 800×600"
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