Nothing makes me happier than thinking about the reactions from the racist right when a non-white woman wins the presidency.
this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
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I honestly think you could swing a few votes by bringing up how pissed Hillary would be by not being the first woman to be president.
Don't forget that her anniversary is coming up soon:
I was already gonna vote for her, but this is the best reason so far.
You know I think this might actually have legs
Oh shit!
It looks like Joe pulled a fairly crafty move here.
He held on long as possible, skated through the primaries as incumbents typically do, let Donnie burn up his warchest and tire himself out on all of his old guy quips.
Then with this switcheroo, Biden singlehandedly decided the next nominee and launched her off with more momentum than nearly any candidate ever gets.
Joe rides off into the sunset with his aviators and Kamala comes out kicking ass and chewing bubble gum on her first day with an extra $100m and poor Donnie hasn't a clue what hit him (again).
Let me get this straight... Joe drops out and a few hundred delegates just get to choose whoever they want? Is that really how the system works?
(I'm literally asking, I don't have a dog in this fight, I think she's probably as good a choice as the Democrats have, just seems like a weird system)
Basically, yea. The Democratic Party makes the rules for how they pick candidates, and this is them following those rules.
Not only do they make their own rules, the DNC has argued in court that they have no obligation to follow those rules since they can change them whenever they want anyway.
"But here, where you have a party that's saying, We're gonna, you know, choose our standard bearer, and we're gonna follow these general rules of the road, which we are voluntarily deciding, we could have — and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we're gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That's not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right, and it would drag the Court well into party politics, internal party politics to answer those questions." - DNC attorney Bruce Spiva
Yes, pretty much. We didn't even have primaries until the 20th century. Before that, the party would just pick the candidate at the convention. Even then, until 1968, the primaries were basically just opinion polls, and party bosses were free to ignore the primary results. In the 70s, they started forcing delegates to commit to primary voters' choices, but that's simply an internal party rule, and they could change it at any time. Also, even now, the party has a lot of control over who is nominated. The Superdelegates are not committed to voters' choices, and in 2016, they were the reason the AP controversially called the primary for Hillary just before California voted. The fact that primaries take place over several weeks instead of a single day, like a general election, also gives the party time to place their thumb on the scale for their preferred candidates (something that Representatives Ford and Smith recently admitted the party did in 2020 to give Biden the nomination).
So, tl;dr: yes, the parties can do whatever they want. Until about 50 years ago, the primaries were basically just suggestions, and even now, they party is doing more to select the candidates than you realize.
This dumb shit. I want score or STAR voting.
Parties could choose their candidates through Ouija boards and it'd have been fine as far as the law is concerned
Yes, parties pick their own candidates and there's no rule saying we actually have to have a primary.
The parties could just put forward whatever candidate they want and push them for president, but if they do a primary they have a better chance at winning because they can select the most popular candidate with voters.
The primary is there for their benefit, not ours.
Curious question to non-US; are primaries a requirement for your party candidates, or are they chosen by the party?
I ask because I know in some countries, there's a lot of parties and I can't imagine it's written in law that every single one must hold a primary...
In Germany, the president is elected by a group of politicians and public figures, not the public. But the president's duties are mostly ceremonial.
The chancellor, who is head of government, is elected by the members of parlament, right after the parlamentary elections.
It's kind of a public election, because the party with the most seats in parlament gets to pick one of their members for chancellor, and that choice is made public before the elections. They announce a "chancellor candidate" well in advance.
In no election does the public get to vote on any candidates before the actual election. They're put up by the parties in any way they choose.
Well, in Sweden the party often chooses but you can also vote for a particular person if you'd like. It's not mandatory though. This is for all levels, country wide, county and municipal.
In the UK, generally chosen by party membership. There's been some experiments with open primaries, but nothing really substantial.
It's probably worth mentioning that, because the timings of our elections are generally left to the whim of the Prime Minister, candidates are normally elected by the party way in advance so they're ready just in case anything happens. Our election cycles also usually last only six weeks, which isn't enough time to run an internal election and then campaign.
That may be true now, but if she doesn't maintain solid poll numbers over the next few weeks, the DNC won't hesitate to replace her.