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This photo will launch a thousand chuds into the streets.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I'm hoping the amount of people whose first thought was "you missed" outweighs the number who are upset.

Still would have preferred no assassination attempt.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’d have preferred justice to be doled out to the traitor like it is to the black guy with a dimebag.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Death is too easy for this man, he should suffer in prison for the rest of his life.

He needs isolation and to be alone and forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

But he won't.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

He's already two years older than the male life expectancy in the US. He wouldn't last long enough in a prison to be forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

That was my first thought… i know bad but still…

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would have preferred no attempt, but if it was going to happen we would all have been better off had it succeeded.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I would prefer no fascists.

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I’m not looking forward to the ripple effect of this shooting

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We were already well on this path. The only way out is through. This country has survived worse.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What was worse? Seriously, what? Even during secession, the president wasn’t the one causing the rift.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Uh, civil war & Lincoln assassination?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

The Civil War... The bloodiest war in American history; brother fighting against brother.

All other American wars combined, through the Korean War, claimed fewer lives than the Civil War alone. In World War II, 30 out of every 10,000 men in uniform perished. Civil War combat was six times as deadly, killing 182 per 10,000.

https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2001/05/the-deadliest-war-html

...for a little context.

I hope that ends up being worse than this. I'm not sure it will be, but even if it is, the Civil War is a very high watermark. Things can get very very very VERY BAD without reaching that point. We don't want to get anywhere close to that

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would say things were worse under Nixon, Reagan, and Bush only because the majority of the population was onboard with their authoritarianism. In those days we had the beginning of the war on drugs, mass incarcerations, US backed death squads, flooding the cities with crack, trading arms for hostages, torture, begging of forever wars...

The population has become significantly more leftwing over the last 20 years. Even if Trump gains power again, our numbers are large enough that everything they want to do will be a brutal fight against the majority

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I get that Reagan laid the foundation for what became MAGA Republican Party, but was it really worse than trying a coup d’etΓ t to stay in power?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Serious question, what are you worried will happen?

[–] [email protected] 127 points 4 months ago (4 children)

For me it's: Inciting violence, justifying conspiracy theories, Trump becoming president

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or maybe trump turns into a chicken, quit election race an refuse to show up in front of the public ever again. God that would be so fucking good please let it be the case...

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That narcissist is in way too deep to ever change his mind. Sponging off the spotlight is all he’s ever had and it’s rewarded him his whole life. No way this turns him around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Shame he won't get ptsd over this.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

My main worry is individual rightwingers taking revenge on students/immigrants/queers with a mass shooting.

Other worries:

I'm seeing people in Israel say that the anti-Netanyahu protests there are now 'encourging assassination attempts'. This will lead to a crackdown on any protests all over the world.

The democrats will now roll over and go extremely passive or try to downplay how bad Trump is.

The media refusing to criticize Trump at all from now on.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Project 2025 will be implemented. We will see poverty return to most of America as all social services end and many jobs are lost.

We won’t see a decrease in tax burden, the federal government will be used as a way to siphon all money possible from the middle and lower class into the hands of a few hundred people.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

"An almost-assassinated leader gets so much credibility, so he can stay in power and gets to stick around to enjoy it."

The Interpreter (2005)

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago

The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger.
~~Palpatine~~ Trump

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (8 children)

That was the plan.

I strongly suspect this was a fabricated attempt. It wasn't some kind of impossible shot. Only reasons for it to have failed are an utter lack of ability on the part of the shooter, or it was supposed to miss.

A bad shooter is definitely possible, but it just smacks of an intentional attack made to enrage followers.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 4 months ago (10 children)

You simply won't hire anyone shooting at your ear with live ammunition from that distance.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Never put down to conspiracy anything that can equally be explained by incompetence.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And didn't innocent person die too?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

I don't at all believe the conspiracy, because of what Tiptopit said about live ammo at that distance. But if one were conspiratorially minded, I doubt the death of one innocent would sway them in the slightest.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It wasn't some kind of impossible shot.

Let me guess, you’ve never fired a rifle while amped up on adrenaline. If you had you’d know most shots will miss unless you’re conditioned to the adrenaline response. Shaky hands and near hyperventilation make for horrible shot groups.

125 yards is only an easy shot for a professional shooter who has been exposed to duress to numb that adrenaline response. This was a 20 year old kid who had never been to war.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Bull shit. There is no fucking way it was trumps plan to be shot at. He really didn’t need to stage an assassination attempt just to drum up votes, because HE WAS WINNING. This is q anon levels of dumb

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No way anyone hires someone to intentionally shoot their ear off from that distance.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah sure, everything you don't like is a false flag. Spouting the same conspiratorial bullshit thinking as them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The shooter was under high stress. He probably didn’t have that many seconds to make the shot before he would be spotted by Secret Service.

According to reports he also used an AR-15, which is not ideal for that kind of range.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Initial reports are saying he was on the roof for several minutes. I'm sure more/better details will come in the following days.

As for the range, 125 yds is WELL within effective range for AR-15s and .223/5.56. Personally, mine is sighted for 220 yd so the ballistic markings are accurate out to 600 yds. There's a nearby 500 yd range that people frequently take their AR-15s to for longer range shooting. This is also considered "medium range" as far as rifles go.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One has to wonder if this is a "time travel back to kill Hitler" style plot gone wrong

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

No fewer than 42 plots [to kill Hitler] have been uncovered by historians -- Wikipedia's list of Kill Hitler plots

If time travel was involved, one of them should have worked. Curiously, only one principle member of the German Reich was successfully assassinated: Reinhard Heydrich, by two operatives of the Allies. To be fair he was the naziest Nazi ever to nazi a Nazi, and was the director of the mass execution machine driving the Holocaust.

Assassination plots will manifest by the dozen if Trump is elected or the GOP otherwise runs with the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. But La RΓ©sistance style sabotage plots will be where the fun is to be had.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Those haircuts are awesome. Pure Hollywood

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Straight out of central casting, as the Mango Mussolini himself would say

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Mango Mussolini? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Awesome

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Correction, most of those haircuts are awesome. The one in the middle... not so much :-)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

He said hair "cuts" not hair "plug combovers".

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we can assume he shit himself. again.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Yeah but that was like an hour before he was shot at.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In Brazil Bolsonaro staged a knife attack and used it every time he needed to gain sympathy from its followers. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Trump did the same.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

It looks like Trump is balding and not a gracefully balding either.

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