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[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm now wondering if OP is in a locale that flips the thousand separator with the decimal point or if their update client is proposing 2 updates and roughly 10% of a third

The joke works for both

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago

2000+ package updates is pretty normal. I use arch, btw.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

that flips the thousand separator with the decimal point

*decimal separator

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For you, sure! For me, it's a decimal point

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

No, for me it's a decimal comma. Decimal separator is the neutral word

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Italy perhaps

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

i spent way too much time trying to figure out how you can have .144 of an update

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Naturally when you only update .144 of the source code

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I like that that implies that the entire source code for the operating system and all its packages are being ship of Theseus'd twice in addition to that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I believe that's what they call fractional updates.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

openSUSE Tumbleweed moment

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Does this happen regularly with Tumbleweed, or just when you use your system rarely, like every other Friday 12th?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are reasonably frequent rebuilds of basically all packages as new versions of the compiler, gcc, come in

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

So a bit like Debian testing after the stable release and before freezing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find it very common with opensuse. At first I was ecstatic to update, but now I just can't care - it takes too long, so I do it every few months.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the hell kind of PC do you have?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I have an Intel Celeron laptop and an i7-4770k i7 desktop computer. Zypper is just too slow when you have many packages installed, but I require them for my work.

Regardless, a Celeron processor should be more than enough for downloading and updating packages. I'd rather not blame the hardware for a task as trivial as that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You update the mirror sorting? I remember that being a thing and it really speeds up the updates

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't know what that is, but I'll look into it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Arch-packaging-haskell moment

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

BABE! Its 4PM time for your glibc update...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How do you have .144 of an update?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some countries use point as a thousand separator (and comma as decimal separator)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

And those countries are wrong. Using a comma as a decimal point makes no logical sense, especially in computing. And it's ugly from an aesthetics standpoint.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Least american centric lemmy user

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

...no?

I think what plays into this is also language. In English / to you, I presume it makes perfect sense to say "Pi is approximately three point one four". In other languages (for me, German) the literal translation "Pi ist ungefähr drei Punkt eins vier" sounds awful and wrong. We say "Pi ist ungefähr drei Komma eins vier" ("Pi is approximately three comma one four") so we also write it like this 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not language directly, but rather force of habit.

It sounds wrong to you because you grew up saying it another way.

There is no one way that objectively makes more sense than the other, each language simply has its own habits. If everyone in Germany said "drei Punkt eins vier", it wouldn't sound awful to you at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sure, but if everyone said it differently, than that would also be part of the language. I don't disagree with you, I just think you've described language (in this context) 😄

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It's only ugly because you aren't used to it.

Also, both systems make equally as much - or little - sense. Math notations is just using whichever symbol is commonly available and easy to write without asking whether it makes logical sense.

Are you complaining that the factorial operator makes no logical sense either? Or the "#" symbol for the cardinality of a set?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

laughs in metric

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It hasn't finished uploading yet