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The decision was “necessary to effectively manage risk exposure,” the company said.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DeSantis, probably:

we should make it illegal for insurance companies to factor in rising sea levels to their actuarial tables

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Fine, fine. You do that. We've upped the risk of kaiju attacked along the Florida coast. Water and wind kaiju, not the radioactive fire breathing ones."

"That makes no sense!"

"Neither does what you're proposing!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess what, that would insurance companies only speed up heading out of that state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis:

Insurance companies are trying to cancel Florida!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now that would be a good thing!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in response, the state CFO is issuing twitter threats to the company, a tactic that has worked extremely well for Florida in recent history

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Chief Florida Officer? DeSantis can be Chief Florida Man or Florida-Man-in-Chief.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

sell their houses to WHO ben? fucking AQUAMAN?!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

A spokesperson for Farmer’s said:

“You are fascists! Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum!”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Well, I guess people who decided to buy property in high risk areas are going to need to face the music. But I am sure they will get a bail out like every companies do. God forbid anyone besides the poor face any consequences for their poor decisions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not gonna root for an insurance company here, by God, but please get the hell out of Florida if you can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I am reading it isn't like they are ghosting people. The insurance terms are not being renewed. If you paid for the next six months you still get those six months. Did anyone read something different?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then what though.

Not condoning poor decisions like choosing to live in Florida but those people are going to be fucked when no insurance company will cover you for less than the cost of your mortgage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know. Florida seems to have more land scam problems compared to other gulf states. Maybe address those.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

“We know a thing or two, because we've seen a thing or two.” and that's why we're getting the fuck out of Florida.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oh boy, time for my insurance rates to double again!

Thanks DeSantis / GOP!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Doing complex math to predict the future is how these companies make billions. The fact that they're Nope-ing out of Florida entirely should tell you something. If your plan was to move to Florida soon, maybe it's time to reconsider.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn’t they just do the same in California, along with State Farm and maybe others?

Thought I read something about it but didn’t get all the details.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They didn't leave California, no.

Article from today.

Limits on policies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

State Farm & Allstate due to wild fire risks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Huh, it's almost like for-profit insurance companies shouldn't be a thing...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, maybe we should rebuilding in places with catastrophic disasters on an annual basis. How long should we keep doing the same thing expecting different results?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It’s hard to stomach bailing out people and parts of the country for events caused by a process they actively deny and lie about.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Florida actually has a state sponsored home owners insurance.

https://www.citizensfla.com/who-we-are

This was after private insurers started bailing out in the early 2000s when it became clear how ridiculously expensive it would be to provide hurricane insurance there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm on Citizens. Every year I get a letter telling me they have the legal right to sell my policy if they find a comparable one in the private sector within 20% of what I'm paying. Every year they fail to find one. The best thing about Citizen's is that they can't leave the state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They won't be in Florida soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We don't cover natural events or anything that happens in the next 50+ years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Awesome user name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Damn those LGBTQA+, CRT, public schools, libraries, and libruls.

Next hurricane season is also going to be a bailout season

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Insurance, every kind, is the biggest scam since religion was invented. It should be a socialised utility paid for by the taxes already being sucked from our veins instead of funding endless wars all over the world.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

A counterargument is that people in places where we suffer few natural disasters shouldn't have to subsidize people that choose to live in places like Florida that suffer frequent disasters.

If the government becomes responsible for the bills to rebuild from disaster, then the government should have the ability to tell people they can't live somewhere that is going to flood every 10 years. And I imagine most people don't want that.

The free market solution to disincentivize people from living in places that increasingly suffer regular disasters is for it to become increasingly expensive to live there. Insurance prices skyrocketing accomplishes that, and if someone can't afford the insurance then they should cash out and move somewhere where they can afford to live.

But really, the problems in Florida are more about insurance fraud and a state government disinterested in doing anything about it. Maybe this will put pressure on the populace to forget culture wars and vote for people that will fix their problems. Ha!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I do understand your argument. This is a planned effort by insurers. They are all pulling out of these areas in protest in an attempt to persuade the government to increase the amount they pay to insurers to cover these areas. The government already subsidizes insurance sold in these areas and while it does come out of your taxes it does not impact your insurance costs regardless of what you might have been told.

SOURCE: This is second hand from a close friend who is an insurance executive at one of these firms. They are also doing this in California.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's still feasible to tax risky areas more. If a property becomes uninsurable, great that property gets a big tax break and rebuilt every 10 years.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

It's funny how fans of the free market assume that anyone can just pick up and leave, ignoring how godawful expensive that act is in itself. What about family and friend ties? Do you even realize how difficult it is to move across state lines? Your entire premise is so absolutely separated from reality.

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