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Do any of them know what the word "liberal" actually means?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are also liberals. At least in the true sense of the word. So it's low-key funny when they use the term liberal as an insult.

I myself am not a liberal. Fiscally at least. Socially I'm a progressive.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm on the left, but I'm far from a communist, much less an authoritarian one, and I 100% use lib or liberal as an insult. I think to most people younger than 50, Liberal refers to a certain type of Democratic voter. They'll hang a BLM sign in their window but support NIMBY policies that keep people of color out of their neighborhoods. They'll talk a good game about labor rights and unions, but still go to Starbucks and throw a shit-fit if their order is wrong. They cared very deeply about Iraq and Guantanamo when Bush was President, but stopped bringing it up once Obama was in office.

The Third Way Democrats of the 90s basically turned American Liberals into Neo-Liberals. I will still support them when I have to, since they hold all the levers of power over the only ostensibly progressive party in America, and not siding with them at this point basically ensures the rise of fascism, but I have no love for Liberals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Lmao check out all the salty libs seeing themselves get called out in these comments.

  • sincerely, an anarcho-syndicalist
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

I 'am' an anarcho-communist and I don't like libtards. Libtards to me are 'progressive capitalists' that have no systemic insight what so ever and think all it takes to bring upon heaven on earth is to try and be nice.

I mean, you should try and be nice obviously but you are not going to soy latte your way outta this my dudes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

> is anarcho-communist

> accuses others of lacking systemic insight

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm unsure what you mean by this. Would you be willing to elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

They probably read 2 words that they don't like.

I like the idealism in communism and I have been thinking about how to implement communism without very authoritarian structures, and the anarchist way seems to be the only way, but I don't see how it would be able to sustain our current lifestyle and amount of people. Exploitation of dependencies without authoritarian structures seems unavoidable to me and avoiding dependencies would probably require that people provide themselves with the resources ; which requires more labor and resources. As of right now, I don't see a flawless system. (that includes capitalism)

So personally I think, saying that the other people have a bad systemic insight in the context of any general ideology is ungranted.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am the only true leftist. The rest of you are posers and/or feds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

look, tankies aren't leftists, they are fascists wearing the skin of the lefties they killed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Fascism isn't just authoritarianism. It is a certain set of conditions that can essentially be boiled down to as "colonial violence against the imperial core" but it is incredibly more complicated than that.

Words have meaning, and you should look up those meanings before you start just throwing them around.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Words DO have meaning, and you just butchered so many of them it's not even funny.

fundamentally, fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are not only natural but preferable to any other social system that attempts to disrupt said natural order, all other aspects of fascism stem from this one line of understanding

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I will not stand for this anarchist erasure

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (36 children)

Do you know what the word 'liberal' actually means

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

It has 2 common definitions:

  1. Neo-liberal: a political approach that favors free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending
  2. Leftism in general.

You're almost never going to hear the right-wing use #1. Authoritarian communists will use #1 as a catch-all for modern capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The US is such a right wing country that liberals are the mainstream left. In Europe, liberals are centrists and they aren't further to the right than American libs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The meme says "American Republicans" so I thought we were considering this from an American pov. Definitions are going to change going to other countries and doubly so when talking about politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

But the definition doesn't really change. Take universal healthcare. A liberal idea that's considered common sense in Europe and left wing in the US. Obamacare would be something you expect from a center right European and a left American. Both are called liberal.

And if the meme was from an exclusively American pov, it wouldn't specify "American Republicans"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (15 children)

It isn't just about it meaning something else when 'going to another country'. 'Liberal' has an actual definition with a history.

I'm honestly kind of confused about american liberals digging their heals in on this definition when it has historically been taken to mean something they don't seem to agree with anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (21 children)

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleed...

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