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[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All the multinational corporate who exploited PPP loans and then fired all their staff. You know... the important people. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

There are also the legitimate use cases that went to corporations, exactly as Trump intended. The eligible businesses were required to have fewer than 500 employees…per location.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

LISTEN I REALLY LIKE AVOCADO TOAST OK??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think the idea is that "the people" did, 500 or 1000 at a time.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This was always what the big businesses wanted - to recover all the cash they didn’t get during 2020. Then blame the inflation on democrats.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

to recover all the cash they didn’t get during 2020

COVID facilitated the greatest transfer of wealth from the masses to the few in history.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Corporations: thank you for your money 🙏

Also corporations: people are just irresponsible with money and all welfare programs should be cut and in turn corporate taxes should be lowered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The saddest thing is how this generation praises people for spending money while scoffs at those who save it.

It really is backwards.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What the hell are you talking about about? Who is out there "scoffing" at those who save?

Sometimes I wonder how awesome the Internet would be if people didn't constantly spout some made up bullshit as fact.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

People do tend to follow the "parked money is lost money" mentality, but that's more about saving vs investing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol, what? Are you just upset because I'm calling out reality?

Who is out there “scoffing” at those who save?

"What are you, poor?" You've never heard anything along these lines when criticizing the price of something?

Either you need more life experience, or you're talking out of your bum.

I think you are one of those proud consumers I'm talking about, which is why you pretend my critique doesn't make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think you hang out with losers that derive their sense of self-worth from their personal (or mommy and daddy's) spending power. Maybe instead of extrapolating big picture conclusions from your anecdotal evidence, you should expand your horizons, get out there, and experience more life.

Also, saying "this generation" on the internet is a bit like saying "look over there" without pointing in a direction.. We can infer that you're talking about one of the younger three generations, but without context, your whole argument is muddied and pointless. It's pedantic, I know, but if you're gonna dole out criticisms on a whole generation universally, it's only fair you get some in return.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

I think you hang out with losers that derive their sense of self-worth from their personal (or mommy and daddy’s) spending power.

You mean, most Americans? Especially those who live in major cities? Color me surprised.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which one is "this generation"? All the advice I've heard for years is "stop buying the new iPhone and the avocado toast and the Starbucks, use your 401k".

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Sorry what? People SAVED during the pandemic! Who are these people?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Mostly high earners / high spenders who suddenly had nowhere to spend all their money.

Also some extremely low earners who got elevated unemployment for a while.

And PPP grifters.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We did. My wife and I both worked 6-7 days for over a year, only got one week off during the lockdown. Plus stimulus. We hadn't had $2k to our name in a decade and then we had $20k. Thought maybe we could finally afford to go to the dentist. Ended up with $50k in home repair bills though. Still haven't been to the dentist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Go to the dentist. It's cheaper than not going. It's only twice a year.

Skip a luxury or two. Do some GrubHub or Uber for a few days if you need to. The dentist is more important than most doctor appointments, unless you have a chronic condition.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude when you haven't gone in 20 years that bill is like $15k. Each. No luxuries to skip, we both already work 60 hrs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

At least get a cleaning for a few hundred bucks, opt for x-rays, then discuss what your options are for restorative work. Finding abscesses and getting screened for oral cancer is important to your overall health.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A man can dream

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

If you're wealthy and all your money is in assets, investments, residential real estate, etc and not income then your wealth significantly increased while everyone else's decreased.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I paid off 20k in debt over the pandemic. Extreme frugality and budgeting with no change in income.

Getting my wife to stop buying stuff was a critical piece.

I learned a LOT about how to save money during the pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Staying at home is pretty cheap

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

There's a bubble.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Joke’s on you asshole, I still have a trillion left!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

lol. When I read "American", my brain made me see someone holding a gun into his wallet, because I could only see a small preview picture of the link...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

We're holding them to our heads instead. In increasing numbers.

https://www.colorado.edu/today/2024/02/15/suicide-rates-us-are-rise-new-study-offers-surprising-reasons-why

Also, you know what helps drive that? If you guessed easily-available guns, you would be correct!

https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/do-states-with-easier-access-to-guns-have-more-suicide-deaths-by-firearm/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Nothing is more American than money and murder machines.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do I feel this is a false narrative for the rich so they stop perpetuating the lie that "nobody wants to work" from two stimulus checks that came 4 years ago? I probably spent more during the pandemic than usual at periods to adapt to it and buy hand soap and toilet paper among other things. It also triggered a pattern of more savings than ever that won't be undone any time soon. Events like that tend to have a generational effect that can't be explained away in a two bit headline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yes, if this is regarding the stimulus checks, then wouldn't it all having been spent be good? Yeah, we spent it, we stimulated the economy during a time when the government decided it needed stimulation. Unless the conversation is about the economy needing more stimulation and that giving stimulus money to consumers works better than tax cuts for the wealthy, because the working class actually put the stimulus into circulation rather than hoarding it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought for sure the housing market would implode after the moratorium for evictions during COVID expired.

I was wrong. Corporations just own too much real estate for something like that to make a dent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah it’s nuts. And nobody talking about laws to prevent stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People spending all their savings is a consumer confidence indicator. Almost never a recession indicator

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But if they’ve spent all their savings they might not have money for things like a mortgage going forward

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Unemployment is still very low, there's likely not enough people in that kind of situation to have a significant impact on the housing market.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah let the great deflation begin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Absolutely not going to happen