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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The use of “over stand” in place of “understand” suggests that they may be some kind of Rastafarian sovcit. Are those a phenomenon?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Black sovcits tend to call themselves Moorish Delegates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do they inherit specifically Rastafarian linguistic taboos, like swapping positive and negative word fragments where appropriate (so “understand” becomes “overstand” and “oppression” becomes “downpression”)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

No idea, I tune them out when they start talking, as I do for the white sovcits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yes! They also say "eye" in place of "I".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

God bless the Unitided States! 😂

Isn’t the US currency issued by the US government? So they demand money issued by a government that they refuse to accept? So many brain confusion. Or do I not understand their position?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or do I not understand their position?

You have as firm an understanding as they do 😄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

"sovcit" sounds like a term from judge Dredd comics, city in east block or something

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I gotta know. Where the fuck did this SovCit bullshit start/come from? I'm in my 40's now, and i can say until the last 2-3 years, I hadn't heard of these mouthbreathers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It actually dates back to the 1970s, it has roots in white supremacy! The Christian Identity movement pastor William Potter Gale was the creator of the Posse Comitatus, which was a far right anti-government movement who of course believed taxes were a creation of the Jews to exert world dominance. It expanded in the 1980s with the farm crisis and began popping up in various anti-government groups, an Oklahoma City bombing perpetrator claimed to be a sovcit. Throughout the 1990s it began to attract black people from the Moorish Science Temple (which is also trippy to read about), and many of its adherents today are black. Thanks to the internet it has spread into many other countries, and thanks to movements like Qanon it has grown more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here's a contract without your signature! That's how contracts work right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Good comparison; there is a difference in that EULAs give you a consent button that you have to click; the idea is that, by clicking "I accept these terms," you accept the terms.

I believe EULAs have still not been tried in court, but there is a difference between "I sent you something and so now we have a contract" and "I presented the terms and you voluntarily clicked the 'I accept' button and so now we have a contract." The law does recognize "gentleman's handshake" contracts (they've just been hard to prove), and EULAs would fall under that category of contract.

EULAs are untested, but what SovCit is trying is a gentleman's handshake where the handshake is some arbitrary behavior that SovCit has defined as being the agreement terms. That's where this would fall apart; in a verbal agreement, both parties agree not only to the contract, but to what constitutes agreement. One side can't simply make a binding declaration and define what constitutes acceptance. It's like saying, "You owe me $100,000. By breathing, you signify that you accept these terms." In a court, you could reasonably argue that the fact that you agreed, spat in your, and shook on it is by convention a clear sign of acceptance and binding. It'd be impossible to successively argue that I sent you a contract stating that if you crossed the street it constituted acceptance. SovCit is trying the latter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I hope the tow driver pays pays him with a quarter taped to a note. That's how it works, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

"I hereby declare by my power as a sovereign entity that this quarter is worth a gajillion US dollars.

You may keep the change."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

surely the tow driver would just send a 1099A with name all in capitals and the debt would be cleared?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

"This quarter is worth $1 million Sovcit Dollars. I expect change."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see where they identify the vehicle. So any vehicle that is towed falls under this "contract"? So weird

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I do believe that's what he means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This person has read something about unrebutted affidavits and entirely misunderstood what it means (or intentionally interpreted wrong)

https://freelawlibrary.org/lexikon/unrebutted-affidavit/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

They get fed this BS in social media. Since they want to believe it, it must be true. Sadly there is about a third of the Country that is really brain damaged by the lead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So $500k for taking it,

$10k per "item"?,

$100k per day,

$200k per day if it is not returned.

Got it, I think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's rather hard to understand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You mean overstand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The fuck is the 14th amendment doing in this‽

For non Americans it’s the no slavery except as punishment for crimes amendment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Over stand." No notes. You got this, pal. Way to go, idiot. Whew.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It seems to be a favorite phrase of theirs. I assume it has some mystic power in their minds like pretty much everything that they spout. But I probably haven't taken enough hallucinogens to be able to understand their logic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You mean overstand their logic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Well you see I'm just a smooth skin so I only "understand" things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Pencil? He upgraded from crayons because he's a big boy now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure the White House paid it extra special attention.

So what exactly did they do this for?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think this is the reason. He doesn't make a lot of sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"I don't have a home, but I'm not homeless!"

Seems like a typical SovCit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but he's right on this one. A home isn't just like a house. A mobile home is still a home. If the structure keeps you safe from the elements, contains some of your possessions, and is the place where you sleep usually, then that's absolutely a home

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

RVs aren't meant to be year-round dwellings. Especially not the kind you call a camper attached to a truck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah well you aren't meant to be working 60 hours a week to not be able to afford a 1bdr apartment but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a home so you can't arrest me!

I dont have an address so you can't send me child support letters!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The sweet spot.