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[-] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago

Goddammit I thought this thread title had to be from The Onion

[-] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago

This is going to be a documentary of current times, where all the wealth is redistributed to rich?

[-] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's what I'm hoping, just very much not optimistically. Corpos will usually allow things like feminism (the Barbie movie, for example), but I can't see them being cool with telling the tale of wealth inequality. Maybe a super watered-down version where one poor person gets a better outcome, but nothing systematic is changed. They're typically ok with stuff like that. (Like the whole Undercover Boss model, where the boss pays off someone's tuition or whatever but wages remain the same.)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Capitalism is a system that sustains itself even if literally everyone knows how evil it is. This is part of the fundamental conceit.

Capitalists literally have nothing to gain by "hiding" some truths, as if the masses were living with a veil in front of their eyes that one can just pull back to radicalize them. We were all there in 2008. We all saw behind the curtain. Literally nothing fundamentally changed and no movie is going to come close to having that cultural impact.

Also capitalists aren't any less prone to the tragedy of the commons than any other group of people. One corporation would end capitalism next quarter if they believed it would make them richer this quarter.


The truth is much simpler than any conspiracy theory: Hollywood is largely systematically incapable of competent social commentary. There are occasional brilliant exceptions, but rampant nepotism, incompetent corporate meddling, and a strong history/culture of "character stories" means that Hollywood doesn't know how to make a story about anything other than a character story.

Anyway if the topic interests you here's a one hour essay on how Apple failed to adapt Foundation, with a truly masterful ending on an anticapitalist message.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

I mean, it seems like a weird IP for a movie, but I suppose if anyone can pull it off its them.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don't forget they did battleship. Hollywood's completely out of ideas.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

Battleship is one of the worst game movies. Whereas Clue is probably the best game movie ever. We really won't know until we see it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

So, I haven't seen the movie about Cluedo, but assuming by "game movie" we're talking all games or all non-computer games (as opposed to strictly board games or board & card games), Dungeons & Dragons 2023 was fucking fantastic.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

If you liked Honor Among Thieves (like I did), you should also really enjoy Clue. It also leans into comedy and irreverence. Tim Curry, Madeline Kahn, Christopher Lloyd, it's old but it holds up very well.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

This movie is in my top ten quotable movies. Every line is so great.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm in the minority, but I found it enjoyable. Obviously it's not a great movie, but if you just want to turn your brain off for a bit and watch some action and explosions, it's a pretty fun movie to watch.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Its a good summer action movie. Most of them arent great.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Honestly, I feel like Mouse Trap has the potential for a fun cinematic twist. See: Mouse Hunt

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

That’s the thing. There’s no shortage of ideas. Hollywood is not out of ideas. They’re out of courage. They’re terrified of taking a risk on anything that’s not attached to some existing brand.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

To be fair they were doing movies like clue, long before battleship. Additionally, clue is a great example of a board game movie done right

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Clue wasn't done right during its theatrical run though.

As originally designed, they tried to pull off a theater gimmick where every time you went to see the movie, you got a different ending. Only one of the three endings was played. It was supposed to be reminiscent of the board game in which the same mystery can have multiple solutions. So to get all the content, you had to pay at least three ticket prices. This made the finished film about an hour long, and felt kind of scammy.

The television release of the film strung all three endings together with that "that's what could have happened, but here's what really happened" text screen. This increased the run time, kept the energy up for a much longer finale, and just...increased the chaos. Plus it invented a joke, with "communism is just a red herring" brought up three times in three different contexts.

Besides, I think it works better as a TV movie. It's great for movie night with your friends. Having it boom down at you from the big screen in a theater feels like it would be a bit much.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I have the opposite opinion. Three different endings were a fascinating gimmick and a novelty. I wouldn't want that for every movie, but once in a while this is kind of refreshing. And in this movie it worked perfectly, it was made for this.

And in a time where movies go to streaming in a month anyway I would be perfectly fine with that.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, It's okay to be wrong.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Absolutely:)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Was it this production company that did Battleship though? I don't think they were around back then.

I'm definitely with you on Hollywood apparently bring out of ideas, and I don't think Monopoly is a great idea for a movie ... Just that if any producers can pull it off, it'll be them.

That said, the Clue movie from the 80s was actually good. Perhaps with Monopoly (unlike Battleship) having an actual established character of sorts, that could make all the difference.

Either way, I'm way more excited for The Sims movie that these folks are also making. I think that genuinely offers some real possibilities for storytelling a la what they did with Barbie.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

It could be a biting criticism of capitalism, as that's what the game was originally designed as. Although there's no way Parker Brothers would allow that.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's vague enough that they can work a decent story and add all the monopoly elements. It's not like monopoly has lore

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I hope they follow the real rules and not house rules. Movies gonna be 35 minutes of someone getting lucky and slowly buying up everything. the rest of the movie is the cast now working two jobs to pay the rent that was raised so that whoever is winning can buy boardwalk. The poorest one is constantly having to pay to get out of jail.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

NPR has a great piece on the origin of Monopoly.

Monopoly was designed by a socialist to demonstrate that capitalism is flawed, since the game eventually ends with all of the wealth in one player’s possession. Interestingly, the creator also included an alternative “Prosperity” rule, where all players received payment from a property purchase. All of this was omitted and replaced with the notion that “anyone can be rich” in capitalism when pitched to Parker Brothers.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

And Monopoly is based on The Landlord's Game, which was created to be a "practical demonstration of the present system of land grabbing with all its usual outcomes and consequences".

Designed by Elizabeth Magie between 1902 and 1903. She based the game on the economic principles of Georgism, a system proposed by Henry George, with the object of demonstrating how rents enrich property owners and impoverish tenants.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Exactly! I couldn’t remember, and you’re absolutely right. The “Prosperity” version of the rules was based on Georgism.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

I hope they don’t make Chris Pratt the monopoly guy. I can’t take it anymore.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I heard Margot Robbie is going to play the Battleship.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

They already made a battleship movie

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

They should have the battle ship from the battleship movie reprise it's role in the monopoly movie and make it the gameiverse.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Monopoly? the game that was created to teach people how they're being screwed by landlords? and they want to make this into a movie?

I feel like Theodor Adorno would be shaking his head

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

What's wrong with teaching our youth about the risks of capitalism?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

This would actually make sense if it was biopic about Elizabeth Magie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Landlord%27s_Game

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I mean, she did explain subprime mortgages pretty well.

Maybe she can create a movie exposing the horrors of unfettered capitalism.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Isn't Monopoly supposed to be critic of capitlism but noone gets it (like Fight Club is a take on toxic masculinity but toxic douchebags love it because the don't understand it)?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The whole movie is a spinoff of that one scene in Wolf of Wall Street.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Barbie, The Sims and now Monopoly... What other things from her childhood will she turn into a movie? EZ Bake Oven?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Personally, I'm holding out for Lite-Brite: The Movie.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

The only thing dumber would be if someone tried to make a movie about Battleship.

Wait...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I thought it actually manged well all things considered.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If the production value is even half as good as the porn, that would be kinda neat.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Margot, does it still feel weird to see articles about yourself?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

This is getting ridiculous.

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