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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Usually I spend 5 minutes typing out an angry reply. Then I realize I have no interest in hearing back from this person, hit cancel and move on with my day.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've been there. Halfway through typing a reply I usually realize, the most likely outcome of this is more bad faith arguments and more frustration.

I will sometimes just leave a purely factual reply or a link, and not respond further if they want to debate it or move the goalposts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

The true strength. Respect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no great way to handle people whose only goal is to drag you down or lessen you. Just block and move on to better things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is especially true on platforms where engagement = content is promoted (ex. Instagram)

You'll notice that the most controversial comments show up first, and that's because a lot of people have replied to it to argue or tell the person off. I'm willing to bet a lot of those controversial comments just do it to get views to their account.

Instead of engaging, block the user. If an account usually has bad behaviour in the comments, drop the whole account.

Over time you might see less of the trolls, and it will tell the algorithm that people don't want to see it. If the platform is engineered to increase engagement, it should try to avoid users hard blocking content

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The same way I dealt with regular trolls; make sure to deal fire damage to stop their regeneration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That probably works better than the stealth archer router I always take.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Short answer: you don't.

Trolls are people who like getting a rise out of others. They're provocateurs. The best thing you can do is ignore them. Let them feel like no one cares and their effort is being wasted, and they eventually get bored and stop. On Lemmy, downvote if you want to, but personally I don't even like giving them the satisfaction of knowing someone read their message.

If you've got a persistent troll who is bothering you, block 'em so you don't even see them. And don't even tell them you're doing it, just let them scream into the void obliviously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

#Don't feed the trolls Common knowledge back in the old days of the internet. Block, report, downvote, whatever, just don't engage!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I may have a bad habit of engaging, but if they post something clearly wrong I like to provide context as to why.

It's not likely going to change their mind, but it's for the benefit of other people. If someone is scrolling the comments of the post, it's possible that they're on the fence or unsure about whatever bigotry is being talked about. I figure if I can help one stranger see both sides of the argument, I can stop the "radicalization" that many of these trolls are going for.

But maybe that's just naive wishful thinking on my part. I certainly don't use social media with the traditional "classic" slur spamming trolls though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think you're absolutely positively spot-on with this mindset.

I have a habit of engaging as well, and I also have a bad personality trait of liking to be correct. But. I also think that people spewing bullshit online is at least as bad, probably/usually much worse.

Engaging for the benefit of others is the key. Although sometimes, once in a blue moon, you'll get these chads who will go "oh yeah, good point" or something similar, and actually admit -- with a comment! -- that they were in the wrong. I always make sure to let them know they are good people for being open minded like that.

Spread truth, but also love.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As a mod and instance admin, it varies depending on the variety of the troll and whether they're under my jurisdiction:

  • Garden Variety Trolls: I just don't engage and ban them. These are the types posting racist memes, name calling, harassment, etc. I waste no time on them. Outside my jurisdiction, I report them.
  • Mis/Disinformation Accounts: I usually fact check them. Not to change their minds, but to tear down the false narrative they're trying to construct. Depending on the how they're operating, I may or may not report / mod them; depends if they're violating any rules. There are some I've wanted to ban/mod but they weren't violating any rules, so my hands were tied.
  • Obnoxious Jerks: Usually just don't engage at all. Sometimes the best thing you can say is nothing. If they're under my jurisdiction and are violating rules (most communities have some kind of "be civil" rule), I'll mod the offending content, ban if it's a persistent pattern of behavior. If not, I'll report them.

Otherwise, I just downvote, block, and/or move on. Life too's short to care what some internet troll has to say.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

I remind myself that the only winning move is to not play.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You don't. They want attention, any attention, even negative attention, and when you reply to them with anything, you are giving them what they want. Don't feed the trolls.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Close Facebook and move back to lemmy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

What communities are you hanging out in that have no trolls‽ The fact that most places have had to defederate from entire troll instances shows that this isn't some enlightened utopia we're in.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

They want you to reply. Simply don’t reply. Easiest way to deal with them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Ignore them, if you engage with them at all they get what they want and they win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When it's.clear my words are pointless, I copy+paste and get AI to respond, allowing me to set tone, length, all that. It's great because it takes seconds and is fascinating to see where the troll and the AI end up going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's legit the best use of what-we're-currently-calling-AI I've heard all week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That's the use case for gen AI

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Do not feed the trolls. Do not engage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ignore it, at MOST i'll send back a ❤️.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I block them. My treshold for blocking is super low and I do it several times a day. I don't have time to deal with people who comment stupid shit that brings zero value to the discussion. One comment like that and you're gone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Don't feed the trolls. My rule of thumb is to make a judgement call: is there anything I can say to convince the other person? If the answer is no, then ignore the message

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I put the conversation in a position so that it turns on itself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Treat 'em like a zoo exhibit. They want to be taken seriously. You don't have to do that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I block them. Once I started blocking trolls as a matter of habit I have found my online experience improve dramatically.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

right there with ya buddy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Love being able to block people and whole instances. It's easy to curate and clean yourself. Don't feed the trolls

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Keep scrolling. But on rare occasions I bite for fun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Trolls crave attention, just don't give it to them. They'll find someone else who will give that attention to soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Don't feed the trolls.

They don't care about the topic, they don't care about the facts or a logical debate. They only care about getting a reaction out of you. Don't give them what they want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Block and/or ignore, report if I have the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

They are looking for a reaction, and if they get one from me, I give them a mental thumbs up.

If it's just being a dick to be a dick, I ignore it and go on with my day.

What I absolutely never do is engage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Depends on the format, and what kind of troll.

If its, say, over voice chat, they're usually losers, and laughing at them with absolute amusement usually just hushes them up.
People typically just bail if you start hysterically laughing and say "Are you for real?Oh my god, say it again, I gotta record this so I can show my friends someone actually said that cheezy internet line for real!"

I don't usually like shaming people, but tit for tat, and all that.

But when its just real nasty, mean digs, I sometimes will throw people a bone, if I'm feeling charitable. Sometimes asking people "What happened to you to make you act that way" breaks the floodgates to some fascinating, but deeply hurt hearts.

And then there's the kinda old school chaos gremlin trolls who the whole thing, and are actually kinda funny, in which case, its called, We do a little trollin

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I block them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I just become a bigger better trollier troll than them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Pat myself on the back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I just assume everyone that comments rudely is like 12 with no life experience yet so of course you're wrong in their eyes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I’ve never had a problem with a troll, than I’m aware of. Maybe that means I’m the troll?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

With internet goats!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

How do you deal with annoying birds out in the wild?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Block report and move on. Encourage others to do the same. "Democratically extinguish the thread by ignoring it and anyone who would fan the flames". Hopefully the mod team is active enough to silence anyone who's actively trolling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

yup👍

plus since the mod team is spread out across multiple instances it incentivizes mods to do their best for their instance

it's a somewhat friendly competition in icing out people who toxify the environment

plus we try to help each other out since this is an ongoing FOSS project🌻