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The Dali was reportedly detained in Belgium after scraping side of quay and significantly damaging part of hull in good weather

The same vessel that hit the Baltimore Key Bridge on Tuesday, destroying it and sending people and vehicles tumbling into the water, was also involved in a collision while leaving the port of Antwerp, Belgium, in 2016.

According to Vessel Finder and the maritime incident archive Shipwrecklog, the Dali – a 948ft (290-meter) cargo ship with a capacity of 10,000 containers – was leaving the container terminal of Antwerp heading to Bremerhaven.

As it did so, its bow reportedly swung around, causing the stern to scrape the side of the quay, significantly damaging several meters of the hull.

The ship was reportedly detained by authorities afterward and docked in Deurganckdok, Belgium. There were reportedly no injuries or adverse pollution.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm not sure what this implies. Defective ship? Was it the same captain, 8 years later? What's going on here?

[–] [email protected] 115 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Defective management seems more like it. Poor maintenance, overworked crews, etc.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The increase of “accidents of chance” infers that maybe they aren’t so “of chance”, basically

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Per USA Today

The ship that struck the Francis Key Bridge in Baltimore Tuesday apparently lost power a few minutes before drifting into the structure collapsing a huge span and likely killing several people, according to a U.S official who was not authorized to speak publicly

I would bet management/owners have refused to pay for basic maintenance over crew objections and that's going to be a direct cause of this accident

e; better source, "Cargo ship lost power and issued mayday before hitting Baltimore bridge, governor says"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lowest bidder contracts for shipping. The ships I’ve seen, with what little I’ve done in that environment, is fucking wild. I’m not surprised at all.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

You can't just say that and not throw one good anecdote out there. The masses demand story time!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Pics, stories, or it didn't happen.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

I really, really doubt a ship they expect to cross oceans to make money, was skimping on maintenance. I could be wrong, i mean, look at fucking boeing, but it's cheaper to maintain your shit than deal with the consequences, even when the consequences are simply a break down, not this. and it's MAERSK.they have money.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I got thru the 'friends network' that the ship had lost power, and put out a 'mayday' call. This explains why so few cars were on the bridge at the moment of the collision.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The BBC have a video of the full thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68667813

There's maybe a minute between power going out and the collision. Still cars going over at that point. Google Street View doesn't seem to show any lights or barriers that could have been used, and I don't know anyone that can scramble a road black that fast. That's a half mile long bridge. They had no chance.

The reason there's so few deaths is just because it was the middle of the night.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Wikipedia says 1.6 miles. So it was already heading towards the support when power went out? Ah, I see power went out twice. I had also noted the black smoke in the first video I saw.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

the black smoke is likely full throttle upon regaining power to attempt avoiding the structure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The bit that actually collapsed was half a mile long. The rest seems to still be standing, so anybody on that bit would have been alright.

Hard to tell the path of the ship from that compressed angle tbh, or how far away it was. Dunno what anyone is supposed to do about it with a few minutes notice like that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was also 1:30 am, and work crews were pouring concrete fixing the bridge at the time. That probably meant at least some kind of reduced traffic during the night work I would think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There would have been a police detail on the bridge with the construction crew. Which is incredibly fortunate. Sounds like they were in the best place they could be for such a tragedy.

It’s a shame they couldn’t help more of the workers escape.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

At most, it would reflect poorly on the operator. It's almost certainly not the same captain, since they move around pretty frequently. May or may not be the same engine crew responsible for maintenance. Someone else said they had two pilots on board in this incident, so it's extremely unlikely to be an issue with the regular deck officer staff. My money is pure coincidence. You spend enough time operating, you're bound to have incidents. They're just reporting on it because it's extra ad views for people whose curiosity is piqued.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ships obviously haunted by a vengeful spirit intent on causing as much damage as it can.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can see that the vengeful spirit tore a hole in the side of the ship, and has escaped. So everything's fine now. Just need a new bridge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How do we know the spirit didn't enter another ship? All we can do is hope that it finished what it needed to and has moved on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is this really all we can do?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If your hot-dog tastes

Like a piece of wood

Who're you gonna call?

GHOST MUSTARD!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I did ask Albert to ask his friend Maersk. And I'm twiddling my thumbs. Like a lot. ;-)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I think I heard on the news that, for today's incident, a harbor pilot was in control of the ship at the time of the accident.

Details are starting to suggest the ship lost power, and thus control, before hitting the bridge.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Go take out the Kerch bridge and we'll call it even.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Dali was reportedly detained in Belgium after scraping side of quay and significantly damaging part of hull in good weather

Well, at least it wasn't raining 🤷

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I assume this just means the crash wasn't caused due to rough waters, which and make it hard to navigate

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Yeah I know, but I still like my version better 😉

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pilot: "Captain, we just hit the quay!!"

Captain: "Yes, but look how beautiful it is outside!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Captain's Wife: " You care more about the weather than anything else, including me! I want a divorce!"

Captain: "alright, but check out those lovely cumulus clouds!"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

NTSB gonna have fun with this one

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this is gonna be anyone's idea of a good time. Maybe some lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Living in a suburb of Baltimore has me super unhappy right now.

695 is gonna be fucked.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I used to work just south of DC. I know that's going to be a nightmare for a long time to come. I mean, traffic everywhere along 95 was a nightmare on good days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe it'll create the impetus for a new route, be a long-term gain in terms of traffic congestion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only long term solution is better light rail/public transport. Adding more lanes won't fix congestion, it demonstrably makes it worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Correct 💯

"One more lane" won't solve anything, otherwise we would have already solved it by now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you lose control of a Panamax freighter underway in a harbor, I wonder if it's possible to drop anchor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They did drop it, it dragged along the bottom but didn't catch.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Hmm, sounds oddly familiar. The "Ever Given" that blocked the Suez Canal had been banned from docking in Hamburg prior to that 2021 event due to steering issues.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Who gives a fuck? That's like saying a car your daughter crashed was involved in a fender bender while being driven by the third owner back.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Live? You mean it's happening again right now?? 😛

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, my mistake there. Old brain syndrome.