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[–] [email protected] 230 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I assume this latest bump is due to lemmy.world updating and now counting lurkers when assessing active users.

[–] [email protected] 171 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Its still only voters, lurkers that dont do any actions arent counted

[–] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget that Reddit was made up of 90% lurkers, and less than 1% of active posters, the rest would comment but rarely post themselves. These numbers are great if we keep those statistics in mind

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Commenters were already counted, though, so this bump is really just the vote-only population getting added. Which is still important to maintaining a healthy and varied front-page, mind you.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think of a lurker as someone who doesn't post - I guess your definition is someone who doesn't interact at all (besides making an account and subscribing, I assume). But yes, I mean users who only vote are now counted (it's not using views afaik).

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[–] [email protected] 197 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My internet experience has been slower since switching to Mastodon and Lemmy/Kbin. And it's so nice. The things I see are more interesting. The conversations are usually more well thought out. And lowest common denominator dopamine content isn't being driven into my eyeballs by Algorithms. I've legitimately been happier since the Reddit API debacle.

Long live the Old Internet.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Seriously, it feels like 1999 internet. And I'm loving it!

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I come after the great reddit API purge. Haven't looked back and I'm happy for it.

I've gotten part of my life back as a result.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Me as well. I occasionally peak back to some niche subreddits, but don't contribute anymore. I'm hoping some pop up here over time.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Lemmy is probably the best fedidiverse project so far and it's not even close

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Super, super impressive.

Most web apps, especially social media - get that peak and then have this huge falloff (see Threads for a particularly grisly example). Lemmy seems really good at keeping its user base.

It reminds me that I need to contribute posts more often myself. I’m think the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I definitely really like the quality of discussion on Lemmy, it makes me feel like it's actually worthwhile to comment and discuss things again. It feels like how it felt when I started using reddit back in 2012 or so.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Been saying for a while that it feels like old Reddit.

I wonder if it’s a nerd-level thing. Reddit devolved as it turned into another social media outlet instead of a niche internet techie place.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

It's also a volume thing. By the time I reach a reddit comment thread what I wanted to say has already been said, and if I say it again my comment will drown in a sea of heavily upvoted comments. On lemmy you can be several days late to the party and still get both upvotes and responses.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I remember people whining that lemmy is on its decline already. We are back and here to stay

(Edit typo)

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't think that initial peak was ever "real" anyway. I think it was due to people creating multiple accounts on different instances (or maybe even claiming multiple usernames on the same instance) before settling down with the one account they were actually going to consistently use.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's me. I signed up for and used beehaw for a month before switching to my current lemmy.ca. My old account would definitely be counted the same way as someone who signed up, got bored and left

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Ehhhhhhhhhh.... Considering activity was on a slow decline Sept-Dec (not counting August->Sept due to i-think bot-spam issues in the count)

The numbers didn't really grow until the method to count active users was modified. We won't know the impacts of growth/decline for another 2-3 months at least.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (13 children)

I just joined today! So far really enjoying it.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I've heard about Lemmy for a while, and I just joined after getting permanently banned for "threatening violence" after posting "nice sub here" in a new subreddit. I wish I were joking, but it personally doesn't surprise me that much when considering my past experiences. The appeal was denied.

Reddit's most dedicated and longstanding users can only tolerate so many nonsensical and frivolous permanent account bans over the years before they flock to that beautiful forest sprouting up across the river. Lemmy should continue to grow because people like me intend to be here for the life of it.

My last few months on Reddit were spent tracking bot accounts, and taking note of suspicious patterns of certain subreddits refusing to take action against blatant propaganda bots. I'm glad to be past that, at least for now, and I wish the users I'm leaving behind luck. Things were nuts.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Just be aware Lemmy has its own share of issues and extremist views. It's not as simple as Reddit is evil and Lemmy is good, both have their pros and cons at end of day and realistically they both probably have a role to play for people.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Oh my God what terrible thing to Reddit happened in February

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The IPO announcement w/ shares being offered to Reddit users. Also, the deal with AI training off of user data without consent. Hard to keep track these days lol.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (8 children)

AFAIK, V0.19 adds anyone that votes to MAU instead of just commenters and posters, so any server thats converted is reporting better #s. With Lemmy.world now on 0.19, expect this to be even sharper.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

adds anyone that votes to MAU instead of just commenters and posters

That seems fair. They're interacting with Lemmy, so they're using Lemmy, and should be counted.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Lemmy.world updated to 0.19.3, which count anyone who voted(lurker), as an active user, hence the bump in user. The same bump can be seen on january, where a lot instance started to updated to the latest version.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (21 children)

That's it? Wow, a lot fewer people were upset about the loss of 3rd party apps than I thought. We need to add at least 3 more zeroes to that number if this place stands a chance at taking down reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I… kinda like lemmy the way it is I guess? Sure, I wish some niche-communities were a bit more active (looking at you, /c/malefashionadvice). But then again on Lemmy I actually feel motivated to contribute actively. Because I know my content won’t be monetized by some corporate behemoth. So maybe this is just fine the way it is?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

I don't give two shits about taking down reddit. I just want somewhere else to go, and Lemmy works for that.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every once in a while I check up on what reddit looks like now.
I find the same or similar topics posted, with 600 comments instead of 30, and 570 of those 600 are just whatever's the first thing that pops into everyone's mind after reading the post title.
I like it better here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Both sides have their benefits, and it's a shame there is no good best-of-both-worlds. I get where you're coming from, I never felt the urge to participate on Reddit because it was so often just shouting into the void and getting buried in hundreds of one-word replies and in-jokes and memes. Here I feel seen, and often feel like my contribution (although mostly just small comments) makes an impact.

At the same time, a huge critical mass of a userbase is completely necessary for niche communities to survive. Maybe not as overwhelmingly massive as Reddit's, but magnitudes larger than Lemmy has right now. Lemmy has a very distinct userbase slant and if you're in the target audience (tech, FOSS, Linux etc) you're probably great here. But even common interests like sports struggle for traction, and true niche stuff has an extremely tough time.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It doesn't need to take down reddit. I'd like to see Lemmy at 1 million active users though. Just need enough critical mass to be able to branch into more smaller sublemmys which draws in the fans of those subs specifically and creates better curated content.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I really like it here. Feels homey and not toxic. And I post a lot lol.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I really like lemmy as a platform. The only thing I miss is better search options.

Someone knows a efficient way to search for a topic using lemmy or some search engine? Some trick or something?

The fact that topics are dispersed in many instances makes kind of hard to try to find a post where someone may be talking about the topic you need.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Great news. it's also nice to see they are more accurately counting active users with the latest update. I still think Lemmy will surpast a million active users with in a year or two.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone who mostly lurking back in reddit, lemmy sort of forces me to engage (give back) in community. While at first I felt weird, it grow on me to contribute for discussion and hopefully I can start my own post in a community lol.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That would be me on Lemmy as well.

Happy to be here!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

The post/comment propaganda seems to have worked as well. Every post is way more active nowadays

[–] LemonLord 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

I like Mastodon even more, because there are more and more serious accounts with identity behind. Here more troll talk.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Hopefully all the communities I follow on Reddit move here so I don't have to use that site.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Doing my part!

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