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Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva was disqualified from the 2022 Olympics on Monday, almost two years after her doping case caused turmoil at the Beijing Games.

The verdict from the Court of Arbitration for Sport means the Russians are set to be stripped of the gold medal in figure skating’s team event. The United States finished second and is set to be named Olympic champion instead.

The International Olympic Committee decided not to present any medals for the event in Beijing, where the 15-year-old Valieva was the star performer hours before her positive test for a banned heart medicine was revealed.

CAS said it upheld appeals led by the World Anti-Doping Agency, which asked the court to disqualify Valieva from the Olympics and ban her. A Russian sports tribunal had cleared her of any blame.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Russians and doping, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 130 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Russians and killing political opponents

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russians and faulty windows.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Russians and killing their own citizens

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Russians and a lack of ethical morality.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Man I feel bad for her. She was only 15 and probably didn’t have much of a say in the matter. It’s the right call, but still, I do feel for her.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imagine if she coulda won without potentially risking her health with drugs, too.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She probably had no choice in the matter and trusted her coach and medical team to do the right thing.

Kids in the Olympics is a double edged sword.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Indeed. Shoulda said something like:

Right. Imagine too if she could’ve won even without the drugs she was supplied (by those who may have paid little mind to their potential long-term health impacts on her).

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This reminds me of when Trump called a race horse a junkie after winning the Kentucky Derby and being disqualified for a failed drug test. As if the horse was tying off and shooting up in the stable outhouse.

While this child has more agency than a horse, it's not like she had a choice in the matter.

Is it right for her for be DQ'd? Yes, but she's still a victim.

Don't lose sight of the fact that she's was a child made to take drugs by her own government.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This reminds me of when Trump called a race horse a junkie after winning the Kentucky Derby and being disqualified for a failed drug test.

Wait...

Trump literally compared himself to a racehorse yesterday to show how he has good genes (because his uncle was an MIT professor and apparently the brother of a winning racehorse is just as good as a winning racehorse).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So now even our Kentucky Derby winner, Medina Spirit, is a junky. This is emblematic of what is happening to our Country. The whole world is laughing at us as we go to hell on our Borders, our fake Presidential Election, and everywhere else!

https://web.archive.org/web/20210509170756/https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-8pttbep59x/

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It's definitely for the best so a coach doesn't do it to another minor.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 10 months ago (9 children)

i will never understand why anyone lets russia compete in anything. they just always lie and cheat.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

That took a long fucking time. Opposed to the US sprinter who tested positive for a non-performance enhancing drug (weed) and was giving a suspension just 9 days after initial test results. Keeping her from even going to her games.

This girl had tested positive for performance enhancing drugs and was still allowed to compete. So they could take the next two years to get their shit together. Look I know she was 15 and probably had a choice on where to take them, but that doesn't justify the wildly different responses.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/sha-carri-richardson-could-miss-olympics-after-failed-drug-test-n1272960

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmm.

One has slightly higher melanin than the other. Surely, that couldn’t contribute to the difference in results there.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine winning the gold medal two years after you lost it. Imagine trying to explain the celebration party to people and them not caring or believing you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I imagine that does undercut the excitement on some level.

Like, it's an amazing achievement nonetheless, but like... the wind's already gone. Sail's empty.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

Ban Russia forever. They deserve it.

The only title they are worthy of is “weak” and/or “cheater”.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they should be banner "forever", but definitely increasing lengths the more this goes on.

They should also have to pay a lot of concessions to other nations if they want back in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

We can ban Russia but let individuals that met and test international standards compete

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I see you've spawned a heated argument. I know this post is old but I have a different take:

Don't ban Russia. It's just athletics, it's not that big of a deal. All athletes should get the chance to compete even if they live in countries that encourage their cheating. Ban the cheaters and their coaches when they are exposed.

Perhaps ask Russia to pay a fine if they wish to continue to send athletes. This would dissuade them from forcing their young adults/teens to alter their body chemistry.

The Olympics is supposed to be somewhere every country can participate.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should have happened during the Olympics, but the IOC gave the Russians the win.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Yeah, like you don't get that moment back, standing on the podium while your national anthem plays.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

I feel really bad for this girl. Disqualifying her was the right move, but I highly doubt a fifteen-year-old representing Russia in the Olympics was given much choice as to whether she wanted to use performance enhancers or not. On top of that, she got four year ban from professional skating, which basically robbed her of her peak professional years. Her career was basically destroyed by something that was, best case senerio, a mistake she made at fifteen or, wost (and more likely) case, something that was forced on her by her trainers/managers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Wow this is the first time ever I've heard of Russia cheating on something because they couldn't win from skill alone.

/S

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A Russian caught doping? At the Olympics??

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Boycott these worthless games.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I strongly disagree. The Olympics are one of the best things humanity does. Are the people running it corrupt scum? Pretty much. But the Olympics are one of the only times the whole world comes together to at least attempt to do something positive.

Also, have you ever watched the 49 kg (108 lb) women’s weightlifting competition? They look like ants lifting multiple times their body weight. It’s fucking awesome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'd rather not reward the IOC with my patronage and eyeballs viewing the blatant consumerism and capitalistic nature of what should be a wonderful event. The IOC takes home billions and the athletes get nothing.

Sorry, I vote with my wallet and my principles.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Man, all these world class athletes from Russia have these horrible heart conditions at such young ages!

Must be something in the water...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I can't imagine how the Canadian team is feeling with their medal chances on limbo over these two years

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just another dirty Russian cheater, second only to china’s culture of cheating/theft.

This poor girl was undoubtedly forced into taking the meds, ruining her future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why on earth would they try doping? They know that people are tested, I don't get how they think that's going to work. They either need to stop cheating, or they need to get much better at it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

If you play any game with ruskies you learn this: ruskies always cheating, stealing, scamming.

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