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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would like to host a Haitian slave-French colonists debate, and do it well: 3-5+ hours, in-person, with empathy, rigor, and respect. Please suggest people who could represent each side. Reply below and/or vote in this form:

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You joke but I've literally seen people point to Haiti today and say the Haitians had it better under the French.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

You could have great historians and social scientists talking about these issues but instead let's get random ass YouTubers like Ben Shapiro and fucking Destiny lmao.

Fuck me, I wish I was a talentless cis white guy so I could be handed platforms on issues I have no expertise on without earning it.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

Granted these are the most qualified pro isreal debaters

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It shows the hand so well that the obvious choices to defend Palestine are noted academics and historians, and the choice to defend isntrael are rabid propagandists and media freaks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

If I was being generous I'd say this guy is trying to stack the deck in favor of Palestine (an easy thing to do honestly), but realistically it's just for views.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

great historians and social scientists

not on the side of Israel you couldn't

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Even Einstein called their fascist asses out when the whole idea of Israel was being debated on back in the day.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/from-the-archives-fascism-and-terrorism-in-israel-einstein-and-others/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Eh. They could have gotten Benny Morris

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Douglas Murray is a literal fascist and an openly anti-Muslim racist. He likes to pitch himself as a historian but most of his books are bunk made up of Reddit-tier race IQ and crime statistics garbage.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Isn't murray the bell curve guy?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

He is, but we in the ukkk have our own vile Douglas Murray and I assume it's him because he's used Israel's genocide of Palestine to worm his way into the mainstream media, online discourse, and giving advise to our genocide-supporting governments. He's also been touring Israel doing press events and producing Israeli propaganda since it began.

If you need to vomit, the opening paragraphs of this Times of Israel piece, published Dec 23rd about his presence at an event in Tel Aviv, should more than do it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We need to reduce the number of murrays by at least two. Possibly more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know a guy who thinks Lex Friedman and other podcasters in his orbit are geniuses lol.

Also, why is Destiny treated as some legitimate figurehead in politics and history? He couldn’t even handle Richard Wolff explaining context without interrupting him to talk to his chat or spin around in his chair and groan loudly like a child

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

lol that debate was a total son moment for him

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Friedman can debate my brick to his face. Let's turn a genocide into a debate because, you know, it's all just entertainment when you're safe inside the belly of the beast.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

tbh I didn't realize Mohammed Hijab was a real person and thought he was just making up a racist fake-Muslim name

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

J.K. Rowling reveals first Muslim foreign exchange student at Hogwarts, Mohammed Hijab Jihad

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I once knew a guy called Farouz Farouz Farouzmand

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

That's sick haha, it sounds like a war cry

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Btw Friedman literally had Netanyahu himself on the show a few months ago

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Everyone's duty is to vote for Destiny from as many VPNs as they can.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

i want to see norm finkelstein rip destiny's head off of his neck with his bare hands

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

There is no such possibility with the isntrael side. They are fanatical fascists who don't even care about thier own despite thier every sperm is sacred decreees.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Creating a marketable media event by putting a bunch of gossips and scolds in a room together to yell at each other over an ongoing act of genocide to generate clicks for my blahg

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Such a shame about Michael Parenti. If the world was just he'd still be well enough to carry on dunking.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this guy the new Joe Rogan? I hear about him as much as I did with Rogan back in the day and his videos get more views than Rogan's have been lately.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

he's kinda like rogan but targets the techbro set