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[–] [email protected] 89 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago (3 children)

People are calling it "the gender war", and it's like GamerGate times ten. I shit you not it started with a Gacha game developer releasing a "summer skin" of a female character that pissed off the gamers by not showing enough skin.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago

like GamerGate times ten

what-the-hell

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Look, I'll defend games as a medium and art form all day, but I'll also advocate for a special extra-painful barbara-pit for gacha devs and fans

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think games can be art just like 2D images can be art. Not everything produced within a certain medium has to be considered art. I don't consider corporate logos or banner ads art in the same way I don't consider gacha games art.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

can you expand on this a bit more if youve got the time?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

My two cents on this issue: I'm a white dude who taught ESL in South Korea for years, I married into a Korean family, I speak Korean, I also haven't been in South Korea for seven years. What I'll say is: it's hard being a woman in South Korea, and there is little reason to get married if you happen to be one.

You're expected to work a prestigious full-time job, provide for your husband (sex, three meals a day, therapy), have two kids (hopefully boys, and you might get an abortion if your doctor genders your fetus as female), and also, on top of all of this, you need to care for your husband's elderly parents, sometimes intensively.

As for the men, their situation also sucks, but the ones shifting to the right are choosing to blame the real victims (women) rather than the system (and the American occupation) that has put them in this shitty situation. Men need to spend about two years of their youth in the military, where they are abused (your buddies hold you down while your CO spits in your mouth), and where you run the risk of dying or getting maimed in an "accident."

In high school, everyone needs to be on campus at 8AM, and people aren't really allowed to leave until 9PM, five days a week. They get six hours of sleep each night, possibly giving themselves brain damage from sleep deprivation, catching up on sleep in class (teachers don't care) or on the weekend. Men also face poor job prospects (it's almost impossible to get into a "good" school or get a "good" job) and a more or less pointless existence in a country that has been occupied by the USA since 1945. I’m not excusing their rightward shift, I’m just trying to provide a little perspective. People there are generally in favor of the DPRK (leaving it alone, at the very least) but they hate Japan, China, and the USA. Rightwing presidents tend to end their careers in prison; liberal presidents usually give money to the DPRK and are therefore better than standard Western liberals. Even if South Korea is part of the imperial core, it's right at the edge, and has come very close to a successful lasting communist revolution multiple times since 1945.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah I understand the hell joseon much better now. Jesus fucking christ, this only strenghtens my opinion that the DPRK is genuinely a much nicer place to live in nowadays than south korea is.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but have you considered that it's nicer to be a wealthy man in South Korea, as long as you hate your fellow human beings?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

my bad i never considered any of this, my beliefs are now moot and i am baby

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Thank you for the insight. It's hard for me to figure out what the day to day is amidst heavily curated exported cultural product. (Parasite notwithstanding proletariat )

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Damn that was eye opening for me at least.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (4 children)

how the fuck are American men getting more conservative since the 2010s

what the fuck silly specs are they looking at the world through (I am aware that the answer is patriarchy)

[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's mainly YouTube/social media. It's on 24/7 for zoomers and younger. What gets promoted on YouTube is all the conservative shitheads (because they have the most money invested in promoting their propaganda), and once you click on conservative commentators you get recommend fascists. Even if you click on 100% Marxist-Leninist stuff, it will recommend you conservative slop.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can anyone be on the side that big tech social media algorithms push for HARD, and think they're on the side of the "good guys"?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Well chuds think they're against "big tech"

Brainworms brainworms at every level

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They’ve moved from edgy libertarianism to edgy fascism

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is this really what the study shows? The BI article makes that claim but doesn't show any data besides a contradictory graph that shows young men identifying as "liberal" has stayed roughly the same. Yes, the gap between young men and women has increased, but I'm a little skeptical that young men overall have been shifting right compared to previous generations.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah idk, something seems off about this data. The UK results are especially weird, I’m not ready to just accept these results. It’s also trying harmonize results from different polls. Might be a broad trend in the US of young women becoming more liberal faster but the idea that young men are more conservative than they were years ago, not sure about that.

This too conveniently falls into reactionary narratives about women.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago

Its almost like women don't want to be property

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Only slightly more men are moving to the right in most places, it's more due to women moving much more in the opposite direction. Which is very understandable due to open hostility towards women being pretty much mainstream on the right now.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

open hostility towards women being pretty much mainstream on the right now.

astronaut-1

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just realised that the massive increase in German women's conservatism starting in 1990 is because of German reunification doomjak

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No, not really. East Germany was not particularly more conservative than the West, with the exception of the 1990 election. In fact, as the 90s went on it had a higher vote share for left wing parties, especially the successor of the SED.

It was however, more nationalistic. Leading to the current situation where the far-right is hegemonic there, including the rejection of causes left-liberals hold dear.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think they're referring to West Germany...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The annexation of East Germany didn't really change much in West German politics tbh - and the organizations that were strongly supportive of the GDR (DKP, etc.) were always a marginalized group of troublemakers - by 1990 the neoliberals were growing in popularity in the SPD anyway, and the left wing of the Green Party was realizing that the group had become a lost cause. So not much noticeable change there either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you're responding to the people talking about the GDR and what it lost in reunification as if they're talking about the west. no one here gives a shit about the west.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

What are the questions though?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do they make any comment about how they're mapping an already simplistic binary of the American political culture and applying it to countries that have their own political culture?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh God, does being nonbinary make me a centrist now?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Sorry. Those are the rules. I didn't make them. joker-troll

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nonbinary people are moving on the (not visible here) z-axis which is anarchism--communism.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guessing this is mainly due to men reacting to the weakening of the patriarchy. And cishet men reacting to greater queer rights and success. And white men reacting to increasing POC populations

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ding ding ding, we talk way too much about social media and algorithms but not enough about the fact that this is simply a reaction to men losing privilege and honestly should be expected.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

Curious how there was a sharp increase in young people identifying with Labour when the Blairites weren't in leadership.

I'm sure that will continue under Starmer clueless

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

Men in the US are becoming the most despicable creature there is: A centrist

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'll just link to what I said in the news mega about needing to counter this properly since it had several responses that will otherwise be lost if i copy it here.

https://hexbear.net/comment/4531230

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What was going on in mid-2000s UK? As a lifelong burgerlander I don't have any context to make sense of that inversion.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Iraq war with Tony Blair in charge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Dudes were rocking

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems made up. Also notice how the non-US ones are support for political parties.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also notice how the non-US ones are support for political parties.

Why is that inaccurate? ROKoreans last year voted in a president that blamed women for the country's problems

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

idk it just feels like it doesn't tell the whole story. And I don't want to believe it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's official, conservatism is a maidenless ideology

Shit, no wonder all the right wing guys are obsessed with finding a tradwife. All that shit they say about ruthless sexual competition for limited mating partners (🤢) or whatever is literally true, but only for them, and only because they made it that way by hating women lmao

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

The #Metoo movement was really good for me. I got to be less isolated and more supported

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

hetero is so over

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
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