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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (11 children)

So when Trump tries to overthrow the largest government of the free world it takes 4 years for his trial to start, but when Biden backs his military allies it takes less than a month?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Let's not compare apples to oranges.

Biden isn't less deserving of scrutiny because he is the better president. He is backing a genocide, that should be put to him.

Will anything happen? No, because America doesn't have justice left in stock.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US justice system goes soft on fascism. Always has, from operation paperclip to across the board leinency for j6 convictions. Hope this clears things up.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

largest government of the free world

By what measure? I would contest both the largest government and sadly the free world bits nowadays as well.

Trump took four years because the US prosecutor took four years. The court is the same, the prosecutor could have filed earlier, but "the case needed to be airtight". This takes less than a month because these people just went in and did the thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you know any history involving US activity across the planet, you'd know that being a genocide embracing war criminal comes with being a US president, it's part of the job.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Biden can point to literally dozens of battles, sieges, and wars that the US was directly involved in and resulted in similar levels of civilian casualties, with no genocide accusations. This is not going anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In past conflicts America has always had plausible deniabilty.

This time israel is screaming from the rooftops that they want to kill every man woman child and animal in Gaza. And then doing it

Cutting off food water and medicine also doesn't help. Nor does Biden repeating Zionist propaganda about beheaded babies or rapes that didn't happen. Or command centers under hospitals which were quickly forgotten about in the media after zero evidence was found of their existence.

Whether it works or not, it will massively tank the reputation of these institutions if they side with Genocide Joe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Two corrections: On October 7, infants have been executed. While they weren't beheaded, they were still murdered. And sexual assault by Hamas fighters has been widely documented and proven.

These things did happen. You're not helping anyone by hiding things that are also true.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Going after the US instead of Israel will definitely end it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Did you even read the summary? They're literally both being pursued

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Did the US ever kill 1% of a country's population in less than four months? Iraq took years to reach 0.5% and it was a big fucking deal.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'm going to assume you're posting in good faith until proven otherwise.

The US never fought an urban country the size of Las Vegas, so a country-scale comparison is poor. We have however engaged in city-scale battles lasting several months, many of which killed 1% of the civilian population. A pretty good recent example is Mosul. There are several more egregious examples in the world wars, Korea, Vietnam, etc. notably we carpet bombed Tokyo for months killing several percent of the population.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Be careful not to ask why a country is packed into the size of Vegas or you may realize that was a coordinated campaign by the same people who are now claiming it's impossible to not slaughter innocents because of the way THEY designed the strip.

Intentionally brining about conditions that lead to destruction in whole or part of a group is genocide, literally as written, in the Geneva Convention. Israel is the reason it's so populated there, so when they blame the density, they blame themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Well, sheer number of civilian causalities isn't genocide. Israel is stealing land and pushing away Palestinians from their homes. Even if Palestinians weren't murdered and just forced to emigrate that would still wipe their culture

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Frankly, genocide or not, there should be consequences for the high amount of civilian casualties in those US conflicts.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"I killed this person but I can point out to many other similar situations where this happen in the past"

Amazing logic..

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

... Literally how legal precedent works mate

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (24 children)

That's not how the courts work here.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In late December, 77 groups — representing tens of thousands of lawyers, civil society leaders, and activists from six continents — filed an amicus brief in a lawsuit that Palestinian human rights organizations, residents of Gaza, and U.S. citizens with family members impacted by Israel’s ongoing assault brought against the Biden administration.

Top administration officials have been dismissive of the case before the ICJ as well, with White House National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby calling it “meritless, counterproductive, and completely without any basis in fact whatsoever,” and Blinken deriding it on similar terms.

In late October, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invoked a biblical verse about an enemy of ancient Israel that has long been cited to justify killing Palestinians.

The plaintiffs responded to the administration’s motion to dismiss on December 22, arguing that there is precedent for U.S. courts to adjudicate questions surrounding genocide and that their legal challenge is about more than the actions of a foreign state.

(The Biden administration is facing another federal lawsuit that accuses it of failing to protect Palestinian Americans stuck in Gaza, drawing a contrast to its efforts to help Israeli dual nationals.)

Correction: January 10, 2024, 4:45 p.m. ETA previous version of this article incorrectly stated that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invoked Amalek in November; in fact, he made those comments in late October.


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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This shit is going nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It got in the news, and thematizes Biden's election bid with him supporting a fascist Netanyahu's genocide. Not a good look when you're running as pretty much a protest vote against a fascist.

I suspect getting in the news was the objective. Media is now going to report every twist and turn of the trial, alienating Biden voters who want to vote for "not a fascist".

Man, I hope the US will knock this shit off, jail Trump yesterday, and figure out a way to have sensible politics, or it's going to be a shitty world.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (36 children)

That's probably good, but why isn't Russia facing similar charges?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Putin is on the watch list and will get arrested if he enters allied countries right?

July 2023: Putin won't attend a South Africa summit next month, avoiding possible arrest

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

The same SA that said they didn’t want to arrest Putin and hold him accountable? I love how SA is trying to act like the good guy now when they wouldn’t hold the bad guy accountable just a few months ago. Israel’s war against Hamas, and their killing of civilians is the same level of horrible as Russia’s and yet South Africa plugged their ears on that one. They’re a joke of a nation at this point (and I get the complex Soviet history with apartheid they have).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Probably because Russia is an international pariah state that doesn't even bother responding to legal accusations anymore, while Israel is only working its way up to that status currently.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

They are, have been convicted in the ICJ, that Israel has also been cited to. Putin has an active arrest warrant in a lot of the world as a result. Do you think Biden will get one?

One genocide does not justify another either way.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago
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