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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That's probably good, but why isn't Russia facing similar charges?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Putin is on the watch list and will get arrested if he enters allied countries right?

July 2023: Putin won't attend a South Africa summit next month, avoiding possible arrest

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

The same SA that said they didn’t want to arrest Putin and hold him accountable? I love how SA is trying to act like the good guy now when they wouldn’t hold the bad guy accountable just a few months ago. Israel’s war against Hamas, and their killing of civilians is the same level of horrible as Russia’s and yet South Africa plugged their ears on that one. They’re a joke of a nation at this point (and I get the complex Soviet history with apartheid they have).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Probably because Russia is an international pariah state that doesn't even bother responding to legal accusations anymore, while Israel is only working its way up to that status currently.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

They are, have been convicted in the ICJ, that Israel has also been cited to. Putin has an active arrest warrant in a lot of the world as a result. Do you think Biden will get one?

One genocide does not justify another either way.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Not to banalize ukraine civilians casualities and Putin crimes but firstly no Russian officials used genocidal statements and secondly gaza casuality in 3 months is more than the double of ukraine casualities in almost 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Experts disagree on the genocide claim WRT Ukraine:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/27/russia-guilty-inciting-genocide-ukraine-expert-report

Also we don't know how bad the civilian casualties are in Crimea and other occupied cities like Mariupol, other than being catastrophically bad based on satellite pictures of mass burial sites.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

False.

Russian officials have frequently stated things like Ukrainian does not exist, it’s a fake ethnicity, and that they’re all Russian. They’ve spoken about how they wish to destroy this non-existent culture as well.

Secondly, they are literally committing genocide and the ICC has a warrant out on Putin for genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Id love when that happens, TBH.

Also, why didn't the Bush administration ever face anything for the invasion of Iraq and legalizing torture?

I wonder whether the people pushing these charges are being compensated by China/Russia for it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

a) That wasn't genocide. That was imperialism to enrich American corporations.

b) When you're a superpower they let you grab em by the pussy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think #1 was because the usa literally made a law/policy statement declaring they would invade if ever charges were filed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)