Also, good riddance, MatPat?
No, but seriously, it's getting annoying.
This is like the 2000s all over again!
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You've watched so many "I'm leaving youtube" videos on Youtube that now the algorithm thinks you like to watch "I'm leaving Youtube" videos and is recommending them all to you
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It's just becoming impossible to make quality content at the scale and tempo required to keep up with all the ridiculously low effort content that those content creators shit out. You can't make a career out of high quality content without making money on it, and YouTube does not incentivize quality content, so we'll be seeing more and more of this going forward.
Is there a name for this concept? I feel like there is, or should be.
Enshittification, probably
That's what everyone is calling it but it's basically a byproduct of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall while also being an analog for it.
You’re probably right, I just thought that was a catch all term being used for basically everything, lately.
It’s basically the same economic mechanisms producing similar results across many industries. Makes sense to use the same term
It actually has a specific meaning and is used in academic literature now. Here’s a quote from Cory Doctorow’s Wired article on the subject:
Here is how platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two-sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.
Nobody wants to work anymore
They've made their bank and retiring?
LMAO
One does not simply walk out of social media. One must declare it and then respond to the responses.
You can say you’re checking out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Like Hotel California, eh?
Whole channel shutting down or just MatPat stepping away? They have like a whole team
its just matpat stepping away, the team will countinue without him from what i read
I assume something about the pay structure has changed.
Damn, the last time I saw this dude's face his was a smooth skinned baby, he's a damn man now. Max Payne lookin motherfucker. His videos were obnoxious but he didn't seem like a bad guy, hope he's doing okay.
The great butlerian jihad is inevitable, the rats are fleeing the ship.
Is it some enshittification thing? I'm not a content creator so idk if even youtubers are feeling the pain of enshittification and found an alternative.
If so, I'd love to know this new frontier and try to carve out a space of my own.
Every time I notice something on YouTube, mancarryingthing has posted a vid like 2 hours ago about it.
Case in point https://youtu.be/aUTnZwisOR0?si=ck2oVCLR-AZ1My7I
This is seriously freaky
He truly does carry it all
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
There's also being harassed off the internet by bigots, like JoCat
What?
It's a whole thing, just search "Jocat" and you'll find the drama
I love it when straight guys who can't go a single conversation without mentioning anime and video games tell me about how my trans fem friends are silencing trans voices.
Oh you mean the guy who tried to imply Hesse was harassing him after getting a well-liked post making fun of a song of his that didn't even link, just presented it out of context as a dumb cartoon.
Then revealed after creating said shitstorm the harassment had been due to unrelated stuff months prior.
Oh, I didn't know about all that. I just heard that there was some song he made and people used that as an excuse to harass him. I haven't kept up since then.
I'm just especially bitter since I openly called my shot here about it, but that's nothing to be proud of realistically I'm just unhinged.
Oh you mean that video I made?
Yeah, I've noticed it too. I wonder if some of the channels that bailed on Unity after the debacle showed promising view numbers on their videos and have elevated those keywords on metric sites.
Honestly, the YouTube algorithms were showing me interesting channels and ones that were small (which is how I like it).
Now?
All the sudden, I'm seeing weird shit like this, but maybe it's a passing thing, idk
Might wanna go through your view history for the past few weeks. Maybe something here slipped through or if you have autoplay enabled something might've been playing for too long.
true
the internet is changing, and they've been at this for 10-15 years. They can try to adapt or retire/move on to something else. Tom Scott did what he wanted, still has projects going, and is slowing down. Matpat has a family and made bank, why learn new tricks when he could settle down?
The tech bubble has burst, this kind of video based social media is no longer profitable for the tech companies, and the creators get shafted as a result. I think Twitch is also laying off a bunch of staff.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. When talking about huge YouTubers who have been successfully making enormous sums, some have been big for over a decade, their revenues will hardly have dropped over time. If anything I'd argue they've made so much money that they now have the privilege to go pursue less profitable but more enjoyable occupations.
MatPat is 37 and he was making videos about FNAF knock-offs. I have a lot of respect for the man for a number of reasons but it was about time for him to quit.
Oh, that's New Years Resolution type shit. I've been seeing creators implying they're quitting their youtube channel... Which now that I think of it may just be trying to leverage themselves into the New Years Resolution shit.
Tom Scott has been planning his semi-retirement for a while, and since he handled it well others are getting ideas.
But it's also just that a lot of popular channels started 10-15 years ago and at this point they're ready to stop. Who wouldn't want to retire early if they could?
I haven't seen any of his videos, but is there something wrong with him? All I know is that the game theory series is pretty popular.
He made some pretty interesting content years ago but kinda ran the format into the ground and also made a lot of content around games pretty exclusively popular with children.
He also gives off big "I'm with her" vibes.
he has bad ratatouille takes.
ratatouille
The dish or the movie?
the movie, i just know from a big joel lol. i think i liked him in middle school till he made a bad take on some thing i liked that i can no longer remember.
I abandoned YouTube as a source of entertainment a while ago. Personally the format got a bit tired for me. And everyone seems to have gone the clickbait route. Plus I stopped paying for Google music and couldn’t deal with the ads anymore.
Narcissism and marketing
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