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Seriously, what's with all the "I'm quitting YouTube and/or Internet" videos I've been seeing lately on YouTube? (hexbear.net)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Also, good riddance, MatPat?

No, but seriously, it's getting annoying.

This is like the 2000s all over again!

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's just becoming impossible to make quality content at the scale and tempo required to keep up with all the ridiculously low effort content that those content creators shit out. You can't make a career out of high quality content without making money on it, and YouTube does not incentivize quality content, so we'll be seeing more and more of this going forward.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is there a name for this concept? I feel like there is, or should be.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Enshittification, probably

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

That's what everyone is calling it but it's basically a byproduct of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall while also being an analog for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You’re probably right, I just thought that was a catch all term being used for basically everything, lately.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

It’s basically the same economic mechanisms producing similar results across many industries. Makes sense to use the same term

shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

It actually has a specific meaning and is used in academic literature now. Here’s a quote from Cory Doctorow’s Wired article on the subject:

Here is how platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two-sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Big oof