they are ready to so fucking hard right now if they could

running to the polling station during the sack of rome to out Gaiseric

Putin has been in power for ~25 years. In that time, Russia has fought wars in… I think Chechnya, Georgia, and Dagestan. Small territories that were formerly part of the USSR, and for all I know it’s possible the USSR was justified in intervening or at the very least Russia’s action could not be called “imperial”. I guess there’s Syria too but the US is there too so that’s a wash.

Ukraine is the first real, full scale war Putin has launched. Still within the former borders of the USSR. And that was a war Putin tried to avoid and could have been avoided had Ukraine gone along with Minsk II and stopped shelling the Donbas.

Should we discuss all the imperialist invasions and wars the US has been in in the last 25 years?

Putin has had 25+ years to show he is imperialist and hasn’t done it yet. But libs think he’s gonna lead the Russian army to Paris if NATO dares shows any weakness.

it's always important to remember where the imperial core is, and who is dividing the world into camps (NATO) and who is responding to that division (non-NATO countries).

The Russian war in Ukraine is ultimately a side effect of the civil war in Ukraine, which is a side effect of neoliberalization of Ukraine, which is a side effect of the end of the USSR. All problems in that region stem ultimately from that event, but libs are incapable of seeing the end of the USSR as a bad thing, so they have to invent a world where former soviet nations are guilty of imperialism against NATO proxies and postcolonial countries are anti-democratic dictatorships who have to be brought in line by the "rules-based world order" (NATO).

Remember that scene in the new star wars where the guy says he sells weapons to both the empire and the rebels and then they never circle back to that plot point again? It just feels similar

The Dark Age, a time of backwardness, illiteracy, and decline. Also, when books were invented.

Quite ironic considering that the dark ages were caused by the ancestors of people living in Europe right now and rest of the world was prospering during the dark ages.

he is offended by the tik toks he saw..

we need to KILL

Oh, he knows

Fortunately we don't have to worry about libs like this because their only solutions are writing their reps, going to "protests" at the designated time and place and then immediatly going home, and voting.

So it's not like their going to have literally any impact on anything.

Given the wolfsangel in their username, they are okay with fascism and genocide.

Remember, Trump would have done Gaza but even fascistier! Vote!

I hear the angle, slightly more persuasively put but still the same as “bullies”, that “it’s all about the humans, I am against human suffering” which is false because it assumes the west are not actors with agency.

Too many soft leftists who believe that our society is simply responding to events rather than driving them, which is why “I am against humans suffering” is the more nuanced form of “BULLIES” that appeals to soft leftists.

Nation states with entrenched material interests act the same way as a 10-year-old who isn't getting enough attention

Yeah like what does the US have to do with it? This isn't a proxy war, as I've been repeatedly assured

Just spitballing: the validation of imagining that someone, someday, will point to their picture in a classroom and say "and these people were actually right and smart all along, but all the brainwashed people on both sides just wouldn't listen to what they had to say."

It's always a matter of the civilised world vs the barbaric hordes to them.

They don't actually care about history. Tell them about the political philosopher Ibn Tufayl and how his works preceded the Enlightenment thinkers and was a direct influence on some of them. (I can't remember the specific details but there was an early copy of his Hayy Ibn Yaqzan the library of... maybe a mentor of Rousseau? who had definitely read the book and was a direct influence on Rousseau and then suddenly Rousseau produces Emile, which has astonishing parallels to Hayy Ibn Yaqzan although no conclusive, direct link has been established between Rousseau and Tufayl.)

Do you think they're going to be fascinated or excited to learn about this fact?

Nah, no thanks! Only Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece, and maybe whatever European history they're connected to via their heritage or their last name.

They're just interested in historical justification for telling themselves that they are heirs to civilization.