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Proton Drive’s new photo backup feature for Android protects snapshots of your life | Proton (proton.me)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've been thinking of a solution to this for a while now but the problem persists. I'd love to not have to indefinitely increase my Google drive storage, and in fact I have a home server with terabytes of free space on it where my and my wife's photos get automatically backed up. The problem though is that they're so much more usable and accessible in Google Photos. We have shared albums with our friends and family of our kid, of vacations and events. If I don't remember when that funny picture of a duck was taken I can search "duck" or see a heat map of my photo library.

The same problem is true with Proton Drive. I mean, I did just set up photo backup because why not, I have the space. But once they're there what good are they if I can't find them, organize them, share them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Immich is basically a g photos clone I've been meaning to try out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I just set up Immich on my home server this morning, it's awesome! And then Proton announces photos this afternoon. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I have Immich. I've even spent countless hours getting my nas folder structure imported without destroying the originals. I'll be using both now. Not a waste by any means I must stress.

Although, proton says it can't find my camera folder so isn't working for me yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Try ente.io out. It's much closer to the Google Photos experience.

Magic search released, face ML is coming soon, and shared collaborative albums are already a feature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Synology Photos (what I use) does all of that. The problem is for search and face match it's nowhere near as good as Google and for sharing, I'd have to ask people to install a new app and set up an account, but they all already have Google accounts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'd have to ask people to install a new app and set up an account, but they all already have Google account

If you're not willing to take that minor trouble, no one will be able to help you. Sounds like an excuse to use Google rather than an actual good reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you've ever asked your aunt or grandmother to install an unfamiliar app and make a new account for it, you'd know this isn't minor trouble.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

These sort of people must not have family or friends. They obviously don't interact with them much if they just expect them to download and set up something at the drop of a hat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have asked them, they said no.

What do I do now, force them at gun point?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You can share them by right clicking and creating a link. And they are working on organization next.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just use Syncthing to send my photos to my desktop at home. Automatically, instantly.

Specifically Syncthing-Fork, it moves all sync conditions into each sync job. https://github.com/Catfriend1/syncthing-android

There are clients for every OS. SyncTrayzor for Windows, Syncthing for Linux, Möbius for iOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not a solution to my problem. Read what I wrote.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uh, I did. Please enlighten me how anything in your post could nit be addressed by this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you're literally just sync thinging pictures to a remote computer, how do you share albums with your friends and family, search for that photo of a duck, or see a heat map of where you took them?

I listed each of those examples.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

This is truly great news! I recently migrated my email and calendar from Google to Proton but decided that Drive is useless for me without photo backup on mobile. Linux client with sync is also extremely important but AFAIK Proton Drive is supported by Celeste so this might be a viable workaround (though I didn't test it yet).

I also want to point out that during the short period of time when I'm using Proton Mail and Calendar, they already received a few new features. If they can keep up with this pace of development then I'm honestly fine with paying for incomplete services just to support them.

I really hope Proton will become a one stop shop for secure online services. Fingers crossed!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Finally! Drive might be useful!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just tried it, it only backs up Camera photos. If one uses a third-party app to take pictures then Drive doesn't pick them up (on Android at least)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

If you have the path set to DCIM/Camera then it works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if you move the photos into the DCIM/Camera folder?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then it works. They just don't let you manually select the folder. Has to be DCIM/Camera

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What if one has a stupid Sony phone with stupid "Photography Pro" camera app, that doesn't let you change the download path? Any tips?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Ahh 2 of us already. Wtf are proton doing?

Seriously it's android. We have loads of weird and whacky photo dirs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Get Foldersync.

It can automatically move the files there for you, instantly, or on a schedule.

That app has been for years a lifesaver for me to put files where I want them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion, but sadly that app is listed to have ads and it's not open-source either, so for me personally that won't work.

However, I was recommended an app called Media Merger on F-droid, worked flawlessly for me!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Can you elaborate on "third party?" To me, that means not the system app, but a user installed one. I've used my system camera (app.grapheneos.camera) and one not originally part of my OS (user app) that I've installed from the Play Store (com.google.android.GoogleCamera) and they both backed up automatically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Hell yeah, it's been almost a week since my last full screen ad when I check my email. I'm looking forward to this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if it works with FolderSync. Be neat if it did ❤️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use FolderSync to move from /Pictures/Screenshots and other to /DCIM/Camera so they autoupload. Just works so far, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, that's clever 😎. I dig it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

No need anymore, you can now choose which folders to sync. Awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's good but from what I can see it has no option to restrict only to WiFi data. Cmon proton.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Its default only on WiFi. You cant even make it sync over Mobile Data. What do you mean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is good if true. I had it going and it kept the background notification while on mobile data.

Edit- yesterday, without any Wifi connected, it showed as still backing up. Today while I was out it showed "paused til connected to Wi-Fi" so...I guess it should be only over wifi? Going to keep monitoring it as it is taking a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I exclusively use it through WiFi

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the latest version you can select which folders to sync!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Very nice!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any way to backup the photo without using the WiFi connection ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Sadly I also didn't find a way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How do I set my camera to always post pictures taken in "DCIM/Camera/" ? My built in camera app saves it to a different folder name 🙃 Edit : My camera app doesn't seem to let me choose the download path, what now...