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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'd call that not so much a victory as a sad indictment of planning that it ever happened in the first place.

Half an hour average to just get out of your estate? What a miserable way to live.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what happens when you let developers build whatever they want without reserving any space for any form of public transport in the future, and when you can't even be arsed putting a decent bus service in

Not quite as bad as another estate I remember hearing about a couple of years ago where nobody could be bothered putting in a freeway interchange both ways so people heading to the city had to go half an hour away from the city so they could get off, then back on towards the city

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The alternative is where every single side street into an estate has its own traffic lights. Anyone travelling down the Highway or Main road needs to stop every two kms at a new traffic light.

The local councils and/or road authorities can force land developers to improve the main road, but they also need to dictate how the main road is improved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

No, the alternative is providing superior transport connections in the form of trains, trams, and actually usable buses

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It's only a 20 minute/9km bike ride from Kalkallo to Craigieburn Station. Just sayin'.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The gridlock, which once saw a pregnant woman stuck in traffic for more than an hour as she went into labour, was representative of what some advocates labelled a failure to plan for rapid growth in outer suburban areas.

They added in a slip lane, so city-bound commuters turning left to get on to the freeway from Kalkallo no longer have to wait for a break in the traffic coming from the right, also heading for the city.

MRVP project director Adrian Furner said the result was "overwhelming", given it was fast-tracked over three months, including design, procurement and a two-week construction blitz.

The area, which also includes the suburbs of Donnybrook, Mickleham, Beveridge and Wallan will be home to 380,000 people and 50,000 jobs when it's complete, according to the local Hume City Council.

Cr Deeth, who is also the Deputy Mayor of the Wollondilly Shire on Sydney's booming south-west fringe, said listening to local governments and community groups is key.

MRPV acknowledged some locals were concerned the new roundabout has slowed traffic coming from the Mickleham direction, and said more will need to be done to upgrade infrastructure in the quickly-growing area.


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