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Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.

Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?

  1. traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
  2. xitter for mastodon
  3. discord for matrix
  4. youtube for peertube

Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?

Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I dumped Twitter in the first wave after Elon took over and found a new home on Mastodon. Deleted my Reddit accounts during the API crisis (I still visit but no longer contribute) and spend some time on Lemmy (haven’t yet found the community to be as engaging). Sadly there isn’t a viable alternative for YouTube yet.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And, honestly, I feel like there will never be an alternative to YouTube.

Hosting video costs a lot of money, it's not something anyone can do

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if you magically host video, the real challenge is discoverability.

It’s a bit like how easy it is to replace google maps, but the secret sauce is google places.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I can see how you would think that but peertube is very good bar the discoverability atm. Hosting your own content is easy and cheap. Just the search engine needs to be better. And you need to be able to search all federated servers.

My example is minecraft. I make videos but if I search minecraft on peertube some random stuff gets pushed for a reason I cant understand.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Yeah the scale of infrastructure needed for video hosting at a scale needed for creators to move over is nutso. The creators won’t move without the audience, the audience won’t move without the creators. Only way it could work is if another β€œmegacorp” decided to take on YouTube and incentivised creators to move.

Pretty much only Apple and Microsoft have the funds to pull that off.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Also stopped using Insta after the fuckers randomly blocked me and demanded access to my ID to release. I’m not giving them my passport just so I can doomscroll.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Reddit was the only service I used. The day my favorite 3rd party app stopped working. I gave them the finger and created a lemmy account and installed Jerboa.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Pretty straightforward! Congrats. :)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  1. Lemmy 95%. I use Reddit for tech troubleshooting help sometimes but that's basically it, and I removed my account.
  2. Never used Twitter. I have a Mastodon account but rarely use it. It's just not a content format that I'm very interested in.
  3. Sadly I use Discord still. Matrix is fine, but nearly all my friends use Discord for gaming and related stuff, so I can't get rid of it without losing basically all my gaming friends and servers.
  4. Still use YT all the time, but only through apps like NewPipe, FreeTube, and GrayJay. I haven't signed into YT for well over a year now.

Slowly but surely I'm getting rid of the corpo's grip on my life.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was solely Reddit before the API debacle, now I'm solely Lemmy. There's not a lot of content here, but here I am.

I tried Mastodon after the Twitter buyout. It has all the downsides of Twitter (short posts, people constantly axe grinding, reply guys) without the upsides (content creators that I want to interact with, humour accounts). I dropped Mastodon after a couple of months.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never felt the need for microblogging when Reddit existed, and chats are a mess and I will never understand the appeal unless I spent 24 hours there. So now it's Lemmy all the way... except for YouTube, of course, because that one is simply too hard to avoid, although I do mostly use Piped mirrors.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I sadly agree on youtube. I love watching gameranx to fall asleep to. Trying to get into peertube though. Still very early, no app, search is bad imo but the idea is great.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

YouTube is still there. Through invidious, but still...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dont think ill ever stop youtube. It has an extremely toxic side, the side where content creators are doing it for a job. I don't go there. I watch, and post videos that are purely out of a love of sharing. That is the blessed side of youtube. And Ill berelentless in blocking ads and paying for adblockers if nessecary.

I never used extwitter.

I only use instagram to share my photography with my family, and to chat with my younger cousins.

Never really got into discord.

And Reddit I still sometimes lurk, but only on PC, and rarely comment anymore.

Now lemmy via Jerboa is my best friend.

Ive also had so much more social interaction offline in the last 12 months its been a complete turnaround for me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. I jumped ship after the 3rd party app fiasco.

  2. I never used it, so I had no reason to make a switch. I also did make a mastodon account once, but I don't know what happened to it and I can't find it.

  3. I only ever use it for updates for a few games. Also, I can't ditch it because the club I'm in at my community college, the club discord server is how we communicate and there's probably no way I could convince the club to switch since the next year, various members might have gotten their degree or left the club for various reasons.

  4. If my favorite channels switched over to something like Peertube or even some place like Odysee, then I'd definitely switch. Most of the people I watch would never leave and I just don't feel like putting in the effort to find new people to watch since I've been watching some of my favorites for over a decade.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Came to lemmy with the first exodus of redditors.

Do have mastodon but never use it just like I used to have Twitter and never use it. I might just not understand how people use those services as after I set them up they are just a cluttered feeling version of my rss feeds.

Pixelfed is neat but I haven't used Instagram since it first came out so I don't know how they compare.

I've never liked, subscribed or commented that I know of to a YouTube video but I have learned to fix lots of things. Have not tried peertube.

More people should use pixelfed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Simply put, I prefer the freedom of access to more information.

Longer explanation.

  • Still have a reddit around to access the "NSFW" labelled posts (all are not porn) and quarantined subreddits (like r/Russia).
  • Have Discord and WhatsApp so I do not get cut off society. Yes, cutting yourself off is a speedrun to becoming deranged and conspiratorial, as it prevents challenging your mindset against society and prevents keeping a basic level of tab on current trends.
  • YouTube is used through NewPipe, Invidious and ytdlp.
  • Have an Amazon account for the rare occasion to buy stuff otherwise hard to get IRL.

No Google, no Apple, no Facebook/Instagram, no Snapchat, no Huawei/Samsung/OEM accounts, none of the other services. I practice what I preach as a serious privacy advocate, and keep things practical.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never really used Twitter (beyond some retweets to enter giveaways), so no use for Mastodon.

I do have Matrix, but not much happening there for me. Discord is where the people are.

Use Piped (well, LibreTube) instead of going to Youtube directly - it still has the content.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've gone full Lemmy and Mastodon. I'm not going to pretend like Peertube is ever going to be a serious contender. None of my friends are on matrix sadly, so will probably be stuck on sms/discord for a long time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yes for Lemmy and Mastodon. YouTube has too much good content to skip, I feel like sites that can only rely on advertising to be profitable such as video hosting and search are going to be the hardest things to make fair.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

Anyone here tried Matrix and Discord?

Is Matrix even close to be as good? I want to do the switch, but there's no way I convince any of my friends, if it's not at least a little better at something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Another alternative is Revolt. It's open source and very similar to Discord, but it's not federated, and thus not part of the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. Use both
  2. No use both
  3. Discord all the way
  4. Youtube premium

I don't think at the moment fediverse have enough content and facilities for me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  1. Yep
  2. Wasn't on Twitter really (I've had various accounts over the years but they never stuck), couldn't see the point of it. Got two active Mastodon accounts though and I'm all over it like a rash.
  3. Nah Discord is still perfectly fine for the way I use it
  4. Uploading my stuff to both. But PT really need to acknowledge the major discovery problems before it can get anywhere, and at the moment they don't even seem to accept that their instance search tool (ie the first thing most people will need) is broken, so I don't have high hopes.
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Lemmy definitely replaced reddit as my daily driver. The only time I ever visit reddit anymore is for obscure troubleshooting information that is usually old.

I never really got into twitter. The format just doesn't interest me very much, like others have mentioned. Mastodon definitely seems cool though. I created an account just because.

I've been on discord, but I could probably easily switch that to matrix because I don't have that many friends...

I hope that something like peertube will take off, but I'm not really on that one. For now, I've resigned to using alternative frontends (newpipe, freetube, etc.). I'm trying to give odysee a fair chance, but the content just isn't quite there yet for me.

The most extreme things that I want to switch out is google, and microsoft. I'm basically going to have to swap operating systems on my phone, as well as my laptop. That pales in comparison to my vehicle though. Lately the idea has been floating around in my head to downgrade my vehicle to something that was before android auto/ apple carplay. Vehicle manufactures have made it impossible to opt out of anything. I hate this so much.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't use anything else, except NewPipe for YouTube. Sometimes I use a Revanced YouTube app without an account, I periodically delete its data and start over again, but no Facebook, xitter, etc. Only true exception is WhatsApp.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only true exception is WhatsApp.

Die heretic!!!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
  1. I moved to Lemmy during the Reddit API debacle, and it’s been great. I’ve even started interacting with posts which I almost never did on Reddit.
  2. I moved from xitter to Mastodon, but I don’t really use either anymore; it’s just not a form of social media that brings me joy.
  3. I asked several of my friends to try out Matrix, and they tolerate it and message me there instead of Discord. I do a lot of video calls with my girlfriend through Matrix (via Element) and that’s been perfectly reliable. Matrix has actually worked better than Discord for me, since I use Linux (Arch btw) and my webcam frequently has green flashes in Discord but not on Matrix. I had that issue on Fedora as well so I think it’s a Discord for Linux problem.
  4. YouTube is the last great hurdle….
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (8 children)
  1. 65-75%. I go in Reddit only when I seek for information that cannot be found conveniently otherwise.
  2. 0%. I don't have an account in neither. Sometimes I click a link that takes me to Twitter.
  3. 0%. Visited Matrix's website but I haven't though much more about it.
  4. 0% so far. Haven't thought much about it yet.
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  1. Yes

  2. Yes

  3. Should say XMPP, the IETF internet standard for IM. Matrix is a venture capital sham not compatible with existing standards.

  4. No, there is a huge content gap.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've done all except leaving discord, but that's because I'm the owner of some servers. and I don't want to abandon friends.

that and I'm not entirely sure how matrix actually works. I am a newb with a fairly smooth brain.

but I only use fediverse now. lemmy, mastodon and I've swapped to peertube for my TV and newpipe for my mobile app.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I left years ago, before it was cool.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Closed down Twitter in 2016. Left reddit as soon as NSFW was blocked. Use Grayjay for YouTube (not sure if that counts).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't use the latter three, and I'm 90% of the way here from reddit. Don't have a Fed alternative to my RSS aggregator, so that's staying for now.

What really intrigues me is replacing my current music library cloud service with Funkwhale, but I haven't had time to explore that possibility yet.

Switching my photo library hosting to a FOSS option is a longer-term goal.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm in Lemmy and Mastodon. I left Twitter for good about a week after the Tesla guy acquired it and made his first flex on the app. I don't even remember what it was, but I didn't want to be a part of his toy, and all he has done is prove me right over and over. I left Reddit within a couple days of the announcement that mobile app developers were getting screwed, and I'd essentially have to switch to the native app to use a full-featured Reddit. It seemed like a crappy thing to do since developers like LJ Dawson (Sync), the Relay person, etc are who really built Reddit since Reddit was slow to get into apps.

I use Discord but only because it's what's required for a gaming guild, and my dynasty fantasy baseball league uses it too. I have no interest in using it outside of that.

I've never really used Youtube, so I haven't checked out Peertube. Likewise, I never really used Insta, so I haven't looked that closely at Pixelfed. I'm considering Pixelfed since I'm a hobby photographer, but I share my pics on my personal website (I don't care who sees them tbh, it's fun for me) and on my FB. I can't seem to shed FB with so many people I know using that to stay in touch and schedule events, and the Marketplace is leagues better than Craigslist.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dropped reddit, stick to lemmy.

Still on Twitter, primarily doomscrolling Ukraine news

No reason to leave discord for me. I use it for a few groups of friends and also hobby forum chat.

Stopped using YouTube directly, switched to using freetube. Haven't checked out peertube but hear the content is lacking

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Youtube is the hardest. Rest are fine.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

xitter for mastodon

This was step 1 for me, and it happened at the first rumbling of Musk taking over, though I don't use Mastodon.

traded reddit for lemmy/kbin

This was step 2. I was using reddit and lemmy side by side, though mostly ignoring reddit, until the API change came through. I deleted my reddit account then and haven't looked back.

discord for matrix

I did this a few months ago.

youtube for peertube

I don't really use either...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I got rid of reddit.

Switched to Linux.

Stopped streaming music and started buying it.

Went with Freetube on PC and Grayjay on mobile.

Can't leave discord because friends.

Still use youtube algorithm to find new content sometimes. Same with Spotify's discover weekly.

I never used twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I still use Reddit, mostly for the memes, but generally, rarely, like once every few days, while I visit Lemmy daily (a few times a day). The 2nd and 3rd I don't use at all, the fourth, no. Mainly because I have to go out of my way just to share a video, and that kinda annoys me.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A bit meta, but Is there a unified article anyone can point me to that discusses all the different fediverse video options (IIRC peertube is not the only one) with a overview of how their usage differs from youtube?

I've found peertube to be interesting ever since it was new, but have had very little luck finding anything I wanted on it when I've tried using it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

i'm almost full fedi, even left instagram. it's just discord and youtube that are gonna be hardest to replace for me. been looking at peertube for uploading video game streams but the upload limit...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i probably can't go full fedi unless if YouTube stops being a monopoly then i maybe can

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Never used xshitter or discord. Now using lemmy and Mastodon. Still using youtube (through newpipe).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • I purged my Reddit account 4(?) months ago, and I'd been off it for a few months before that.
  • I've been using Mastodon, and the gotosocial, for about a year and a half. I never really used Twitter, though, and since the Great Reddit Exodus, I use Lemmy more. I've never found microblogging to have much value.
  • Why would anyone go from Matrix to Dicord? Did you swap the order here?
  • I haven't stopped using YouTube. There's no equivalent content on Peertube. Yet
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I only enter to reddit to check information I can't find in other places or because of communities there. I mostly enter for KDE reports and Stellaris lol

I have a Twitter account because my friend are there and they've abandoned Facebook almost completely, but I enter one in a month or so. I've been using Mastodon daily because I found a lot of people that also have my interests and hobbies, even in my language.

I only enter to Discord for casual gaming with friends, like one or two times a month.

And I've been trying to use PeerTube more, but a lot of content creators I like are still on YouTube, and PeerTube doesn't have an official app yet. I'm currently using Piped and NewPipe for watching videos (I use the YT app only when I want to support some creators).

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