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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

...and? We know, they don't care.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When will the time come when the rich are back on the menu?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When corn won't grow, perhaps we eat some grilled billionaire ribs

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The average global 1% is your doctor or your middle manager boss, not a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That’s not how averages or percentages work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

140k/yr USD is still well within the class of people who care. Basically every doctor in America falls into that category.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's this temptation to believe that global warming is only caused by a very small group of unrepentant greedy assholes, when the fact of the matter is that it really is a systemic issue caused by essentially everyone in a moderately developed country.

Sure, most emissions can be traced to a handful of companies, but we've quite recently seen what happens when the price of gas spikes even a little bit and people lose their god damn minds. Companies go for cheap polluting practice because consumers demand everything be as cheap as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I read part of a book about grocery stores and it used the term "perpetuator". It's not all our fault and we cannot let the corps place all the blame on us, and we can't place all the blame on the large corps either. We are all perpetuators of the system, some bigger than others. Everyone has a part to do to fix this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's income though. The rich don't have income, they have property. Top 1% wealth is more like $13 million.

That site also says top 1% income is more like 400k (individual) to 600k (household). (Edit: though those are us numbers not global.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

140k is the stat used in the article this post linked

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think this works as a reminder.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

being wealthy is unethical

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"World's richest 1%" is 81,000,000 people, FYI.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

It should be noted that the category of 'world's richest 1%' includes quite a lot of Americans. If you've ever flown for a vacation, there's a decent chance you're included in that category. This is not the Musks and Bezos and Gates of the world; it's the doctors, lawyers, tech workers, and middle managers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They also own almost all of the other carbon emitting facilities & vehicles. So they’re responsible for most of the carbon emissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Rich people are that "this is fine" meme. Chilling while the world burns around them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

start a go fund me to get AC for these people?