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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would like to know more about the “irreconcilability between Catholic doctrine and Freemasonry.” As someone who grew up Catholic, this makes me want to investigate joining the masons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really don’t understand. I am not a Freemason, but my dad was and I knew many. I did go through the first initiation and decided I didn’t want to continue (just personal choice and didn’t want to commit time to it).

They espouse belief in a higher being (typically God, but no one asks). There are “secrets”, but these are covered in books you can get at a library. They basically do charity work and it’s a place to belong to - like a frat.

This ban screams ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Idk maybe you didn't finish enough degrees. Pretty sure when you hit degree 25 (Knight of the Brazen Serpent) is when they tell you about the lizard people being the true higher beings.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about the Illuminati, though?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Look, its simple: ONE CULT AT A TIME"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Alright, cult of Dionysus it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


VATICAN CITY, Nov 15 (Reuters) - The Vatican has confirmed a ban on Catholics becoming Freemasons, a centuries-old secretive society that the Catholic Church has long viewed with hostility and has an estimated global membership of up to six million.

The department, known as the Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith, issued its opinion, dated Nov. 13 and countersigned by Pope Francis, in response to a bishop from the Philippines alarmed by the growing number of Freemasons in his country.

The same office said last week that transgender people can be baptized, serve as godparents and act as witnesses at Catholic weddings.

The letter on Freemasons cited a 1983 declaration, signed by the late Pope Benedict XVI, at the time the Vatican's doctrine chief, stating that Catholics "in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion".

According to the United Grand Lodge of England, modern Freemasonry "is one of the oldest social and charitable organisations in the world", rooted in the traditions of medieval stonemasons.

It lists the late Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Philip, former Prime Minister Winston Churchill, late actor Peter Sellers, former England soccer manager Alf Ramsey and authors Rudyard Kipling and Arthur Conan Doyle as famous Freemasons from the past.


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