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Webp

Developed by google, for google products.

Not guaranteed to work with google products (looking at you google voice.)

You get the exact same quality at around ~25% smaller than other image formats. Unfortunate that it’s not supported by everything, but yeah it’s a better image format practically in that sense.

On the web this saves money when storing at a large scale, and it can have a significant impact on page speed when loading websites on slower connections.

People just really need to support it. It's far better than jpg or png. It's the go-to for web right now, that's for sure.

As someone who has had to put together websites:

• It is supported by every major browser
• It is halving the amount of your mobile data that I am using sending you images (With lossy compression it does even better)
• It is decreasing my network egress costs
• It is increasing the number of connections I can serve in a given time period

Nope I am not going to stop using this or AVIF (which does better)

It's straight up better though

Is this the latest hate trend? Is it that time of the year again?

The problem is rather the opposite of the meme. The file format is fine, but there is so little effort into making it happen.

If we were trying then I should be able to upload webp images everywhere. The most egregious is websites that will convert jpg and png uploads to webp but don't allow webp upload.

I've personally used webp for when I need lossy compression with alpha channel. What good alternatives are there? Png is not lossy and jpeg does not support alpha. Is JXL better than WebP? AVIF? JPEG2000?

I host my own server for playing TTRPGs on and webp saves me a lot of storage space and bandwidth.

WebP is awesome. So is JPEG-XL.

JPEG and PNG are archaic and should die already.

.jxl is also coming btw

I haven't had an issue with webp support myself, kinda surprised to see people stating it like it happens all the time

The only tool I've used that didn't support it was the FOMOD creation tool when making some small Starfield foods, and that actually DID support webp, it just threw an error but would show the image and mod managers would load it no problem

Or is this an example of the difference between people who use Linux and Windows regularly?

Webp is superior to jpg and far smaller than png. Making a map tile that has transparency and is bigger than 20x20 grid squares leaves you the choice between a huge png or a tiny webp. VTTs like foundry have best practice guidelines re image sizes and formats and it is simply not possible to follow these using png unless the map in question is tiny, and if you ignore them and just go for a huge png your players may be faced with lag, longer loading times etc.

I use an extension that automatically converts it. I can't stand webp

From someone using foundry, please continue to use webp and webm... Foundry easily supports it and the file sizes are much smaller making them take up much less space on my server. And upload faster, and load faster for me and my players, and let me upload larger maps for my players as they render easier.

If jpg and png were good enough for dialup, they're good enough for gigabit.

I just use ImageMagick

mogrify -format png *.webp

I'm a little out of the loop on webp. What makes it problematic?