So basically heaven
This makes sense now. Ty!
You're acting as if pregnancy just randomly occurs like an illness. It does not. I wouldn't believe in a religion that doesn't have evidence to back it up, so your presumption that I would still doesn't make any sense. Offering support to a distressed person about to jump off a bridge is okay, so why isn't it okay to offer support to a distressed person about to allow someone to murder her child? Both believe that what they're going to do is the right thing.
I still could have gotten punished ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tbf I think our current understanding that's available is pretty good, especially from how deep Christology goes and from theologians and such. It's just that some people don't have a good individual understanding.
I think a good example is the whole "turn the other cheek" thing, and "if someone sues you for your coat, give him your shirt". Because it was to do with exposing the clear injustice and being equal. Same with the "go with him two". It's less so about being a pushover, but putting yourself on equal footing and being respectful.
This video explains it better than I can:
"Conflict in Relationships Unavoidable" Jesus Offers Wisdom for Seeking Peace
Also another funny example: I was working with someone from another country who's a very new Christian and also to the English language, and they read "as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us." and they thought it was to do with the political east and west, instead of how it's describing infinity via cardinal directions.
Like in 1 Corinthians, KJV says "Charity is patient, charity is kind" compared to the modern more well known "Love is patient, love is kind"
Once I had a teacher who was trying to boast to me that his uncle or someone worked in engineering some American bomber, and I responded with "how many iraqis did that kill?" I didn't get into trouble.
The amount of mental gymnastics and presumptions about me here is absolutely astounding. Me not donating a kidney to you is not the same as me ripping you apart from limb to limb. The equivalent would be, just say a pregnant woman would need to take a medical treatment to prevent a miscarriage. Do I think it should be illegal for her to refuse the treatment? No! As letting nature play out is not actively intervening and murdering someone.
Also, I hear atheists flip flop between "we can have morals too, even though we believe that there is no god" to "you are only holding this moral about life being worth something because of your belief in god" and it's astonishing.
I still believed abortion was wrong before I took the Bible seriously as a guideline for my life. I also believed in other things that aren't biblical at the time. I challenged the social norm and still came to the conclusion that religion aside, it's immoral. The only influence religion has on my opinions surrounding abortion is that I believe that morality exists and that human life is sacred. Which is why I am also against the death penalty and I am against refusing to help people who are dying.
This is depressingly hilarious that they even do this in movie posters
Why aren't you giving all this money to charity?
Why aren't YOU giving all this money to charity? It's your money.
Anarchism just won't work lol. People will band together, larger groups would survive and whoops! It's countries all over again