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DOHA, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday total victory in Gaza was within reach, rejecting the latest offer from Hamas for a ceasefire to ensure the return of hostages still held in the besieged enclave.

Netanyahu renewed a pledge to destroy the Palestinian Islamist movement, saying there was no alternative for Israel but bringing about the collapse of Hamas.

"The day after is the day after Hamas. All of Hamas," he told a press conference, insisting that total victory against Hamas was the only solution to the Gaza war.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Total victory"?

Sounds like this stain on humanity wants some kind of "final solution"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The thing is, it will never happen.

Sure, they might “win” in terms of military and/or stealing land. But as long as they keep oppressing, stealing and murdering - there will be people fighting against it.

Even if there’s no Palestinian left on Palestinian ground. There will be people from different countries fighting back. One way or another.

“If peaceful revolution is not possible, violent revolution is inevitable”.

This whole thing seems to be a never-ending cycle which makes me immensely sad. For both, the Palestinian people and the normal civilians of Israel.

From what I have read and heard, Israel haven’t seen any actual peace ever since they made the state. I think, they’ve been on ‘high alert for attacks’ ever since being made. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say "never".

Peace can happen but the Israelis need to remove Netanyahu and elect somebody who actually wants a two state solution. After that, there's a whole lot of diplomacy from both sides needed, free Palestinian elections, stolen land being returned, removal of blockades and control of infrastructure, and so on.

It's not impossible, just really, really difficult. Especially with leadership on both sides not being especially interested in peace. That's why Bibi needs to be slung out of office ASAP. Nothing good will happen while that monster has power.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right in general, but Bibi is a symptom, not a cause. The Israeli public has always been pro-genocide, and they're shifting to, not away, from the right. We need to recognize that a solution is only possible if the international community forces Israel to compromise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They need to decide if the next asshole strongman who promises to keep them safe is worth their vote, because the current one has completely failed them.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No, because you're forgetting, Palestines don't want peace either. They'll accept any deal they can get. But a soon as they rebuild...

Bang fighting starts again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, well most of them.

It's literally in their fucking charter... Do you read?

NOT that Israel is any different, they don't plan on stopping until they have taken all that land... And probably finished the genocide their currently committing..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s just the price of being an invader nation. By definition, Israel can never know peace, only armistices between further acts of war. Unless they manage to genocide Palestinians world wide, they will always face attacks on their invader population/infrastructure/society. It’s a feature of colonization. Netanyahu knows this, but is trying to maintain his position by bringing home an unattainable victory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

It's not just Palestines, it's most of Muslims...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

He thinks he's playing Risk. Except Palestinians are not little wooden cubes, they're fucking people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

No, Bibi is just training to climb Mount Midoriyama 完全制覇