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Let's be clear though, it wasn't because of his economic policy, it was his thorough mishandling of covid that got one million Americans killed which was the problem.
More significantly yes but let's not forget the massive tax cuts and regulation destruction he did
I wish I'd bought a new washer/dryer before he pissed off China with that pointless trade war. Prices doubled overnight and have not come back down.
I don't that his brainless decisions regarding economic policy did anything but make it worse.
Remember his trade wars with...everyone? And then he renegotiated the same agreements but worse?
I would love to not remember the entire four years; but I have to accept that the only chance to learn from it is to acknowledge that the shit did happen. Ugh.
Maybe it was worse, but with a sharpie pen. So there's that.
"But why are there three copies? Which one is the real one?"
I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but the man didn’t do anything without the combination of someone telling him to do it and somehow that thing being made worth his while.
So, why the hell would he decide/be-told to disband the US Pandemic Response team in May 2018?
https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg
Apparently, Trump had a beef with his National Security advisor, and that advisor was good friends with the admiral in charge of the pandemic office. So, to punish the Advisor, Trump closed down his buddy's office.
It’s all so petty. And people still want this person to have power. Society is so confusing.
These thoughts are not original to me.
The Boomers were mostly raised by people who'd survived the Depression and WW2. The parents were deeply scarred by those experiences and told the Boomers they had to be 'tough.' The Boomers grew up in a world of plenty, and never had any idea of what 'tough' really was. Men like Reagan and Trump, who built their image as 'tough guys' never got within a mile of actual combat. This is perfect for Boomers who spent their lives avoiding real conflict while thinking of themselves as bad ass pioneers.
The other thing is 'Future Shock.' A sociologist named Alvin Toffler and his wife wrote a book back in the 1970s. The idea of 'future shock' was that as the Industrial Age died and the Digital Era bloomed, a lot of people would be unwilling/unable to adopt to the changing world. They woudl try harder and harder to keep the past alive, even if it meant killing the future.
The Presidency essentially sharing storylines with any predictable, tween drama. That’s totally normal and ok…
I think they handled it all according to the plan. It allowed them to sow distrust in everyone from doctors just trying to save people's lives, to the very government he was in charge of. It basically set the hook for his cult of "you can only trust me". And his cult believes that millions are going to die from the vaccine, and at the same time that people dying from COVID is "fake news".
It’s called cognitive dissonance and Putin is a master class at it…
Indeed. I wish we could just trade him a pardon for all his crimes, and in exchange he must take his cult and all move to some remote place where they will be separated from the rest of the world. He can live out his remaining days as some god, and his cult members can stop messing up society for the rest of us. Ah, to dream.
His economic policies did cause severe damage, though. Yes, the pandemic made it even worse. But I disagree with saying it "wasn't" his economic policies. That implies his policies were productive; they were not.
And the fact the whole world shut down for a few months. I’m sure that had something to do with it.
Which could have been drastically mitigated to an extent if he actually got his base to jump on board and support the vaccine and mask agenda. It wouldn't have spread anywhere near the extent that it did, nor would we have had the need to shut so many things down and isolate.
His mismanagement of the COVID pandemic, and his anti-sciencw rhetoric really screwed things up. Hell, there's still ignorant loons out there that think COVID was a lie and that the vaccines are just for the government to inject a world-ending virus that will get triggered by 5G signals when the Global Cabal decides to end the World. It's absolutely comical.
Also wasn't he sorta directly responsible for it in the first place? US for years maintained pandemic response labs in high-risk areas, like around the notorious wet-markets in Wuhan, that he shuttered early in his term. We were explicitly looking out for that kind of thing to catch it before it became a global issue, but he thought it cost too much.
Lmfao. I completely forgot that he got rid of the Pandemic Response Team. The absolute irony XD
Also, the research method that his base was all preaching about being how covid was created, and should have never been allowed, was only allowed to happen with US money/participation, due to Trump's policy changes.
I'm not so sure. In my province we had very good mask use and vaccine uptake (once we could get them), but we still went back into lockdown, after our initial long ass lockdown, due to case loads still being too high.
Masks and vaccines did help of course, but are not a guarantee things will stay open.
I’m not saying he didn’t screw the pooch. I’m just saying the whole world economy took a huge hit which clearly was due to the COVID lockdowns. I’m not saying they weren’t needed and we absolutely should have done everything we did. But to pretend it was all Trump’s fault is showing just as much brain power that he does.
I mean yeah, Trump can't be blamed for COVID, but his response to it is another matter entirely.
Over 1 million dead. That's a pretty damn big chunk of the population to lose in the space of two years.
Now I'm not saying he's alone in the blame, there are state level republicans responsible too, but boy did he try to hamstring those who were trying to do the right thing.
If I looked purely at his actions, I'd say that he wanted COVID to be some great filter or something to wash through the masses and take out lots of people.
I mean, in South Africa we have a famously corrupt and incompetent government. And even we significantly outperformed the US in deaths per 100k people.
It does help to have publicly funded healthcare.
That's just embarrassing. I wish Conservatives felt shame.
It isn’t just about his reactive actions to the pandemic.
His proactive efforts to hasten the pandemic is more damning.
May, 2018:
https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg